To any interested parties:

For anyone who might also want to pick-up on a copy of Joe's (Cheaven) dissertation I was able to contact the UNiversity of Hawaii at Manoa. They will sent out a copy of the dissertaion for $15USD for the first 20 pages and 25 cents for each page there after.
By my tally that would come to about $49.25USD for the whole dissertation or about what any decent book on Korean history might run. Just food for thought.

FYI:

Yakuza and kkangpae : organized crime ties between Japan and Korea / by Joseph D. Cheavens Jr.
[1994]
x, 157 leaves, bound ; 29 cm.
Thesis for the degree of Master of Arts (University of Hawaii at Manoa).
Asian Studies ; no. 2389


Best Wishes,

Bruce

".....Song: Probably seventy years ago. When Japan invaded, if more than ten people gathered, they would disperse them with whips. People didn't want to be whipped, so they didn't gather. That's when taekkyon started disappearing....."

Unfortunately this is not supported by anecdotal responses in various parts of the country. I can understand if this was a response in the precincts around Seoul or any of the larger cites in Korea for that matter. There is still a lot of the country where there was very little in the way of impact by the Occupation including the mountainous northwestern part of the country and those areas which transitioned into Manchuko ("Manchuria") before, during and after the war. FWIW.

Best Wishes,

Bruce

To any interested parties:

For anyone who might also want to pick-up on a copy of Joe's (Cheaven) dissertation I was able to contact the UNiversity of Hawaii at Manoa. They will sent out a copy of the dissertaion for $15USD for the first 20 pages and 25 cents for each page there after.
By my tally that would come to about $49.25USD for the whole dissertation or about what any decent book on Korean history might run. Just food for thought.

FYI:

Yakuza and kkangpae : organized crime ties between Japan and Korea / by Joseph D. Cheavens Jr.
[1994]
x, 157 leaves, bound ; 29 cm.
Thesis for the degree of Master of Arts (University of Hawaii at Manoa).
Asian Studies ; no. 2389


Best Wishes,

Bruce

Bruce, thats my MA thesis. For my PhD dissertation, I tried to expand what was probably the weakest section of my thesis - the Colonial Period. The titles are similar, but I think my dissertation is a bit better in terms of quality. I think the strongest part of my MA thesis is the examination of the relationship between the Yakuza and the Korean minority in Japan after WWII. With regards to the Choson and Colonial Period origins of the Kkangp'ae, I don't think I do a very good job with that in my MA thesis and revised a lot of my assumptions and theories in my PhD dissertation.

For some reason, my dissertation isn't listed in the UH Library. Here's the listing for my MA thesis:

http://uhmanoa.lib.hawaii.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?SAB1=kkangp%27ae&DB=local&BOOL1=all+of+these&FLD1=Keyword+Anywhere+%28Gkey%29+&CNT=75&HIST=1&btnG=Search

Not sure if its worth the money, though. Bruce, if you do fork out the $ for it, let me and the other Bullshido members know what you think. If you don't think its worth the $, I'd hate to see others waste their money.

Thanks, Joe, but I'm having some real problems with this.

I think I am reading you to say that your PhD dissertation was an improved version of the Masters paper, yes?

I went out on the U of H library link and found what I was sure was your PhD AND MA papers. When I called the University they said that they could not find your papers on PRO-QUEST. They DID say they were able to provide a copy of your MA but didn't seem to be able to find your PhD work. I can't figure this because it would seem to be the same work thats in their catalogue--- unless what they meant was that they can't find it "on the shelf".

If the PhD work is the better of the two I have no problem paying out the bucks. In research I am hell-and-gone from getting my resources down at the local BARNES AND NOBLES. You know what they say: "If you can't read with the big books; stay in the magazine section"( or something like that).

Best Wishes,

Bruce

TEA, why can't you send a PDF?

The Digital Thesis Program is also a great way to disseminate theses (you must have a US version).

TEA, why can't you send a PDF?

Good idea. However, for some reason, when I covnert my dissertation to pdf, Acrobat screws up all of the fonts for the macrons on the Japanese and Korean terms, so it looks really crappy. Bruce, if you don't mind this, I could convert it to pdf and e-mail it to you a chapter at a time so that it doesn't overwhelm your e-mail program.


The Digital Thesis Program is also a great way to disseminate theses (you must have a US version).

Thats what ProQuest is. I'm a bit dismayed that the UH Library can't find either the copy that they should have or the copy I sent to ProQuest. I'll have to follow up with UH and ProQuest to see what is going on. Since ProQuest cashed my check, I'd expect them to have it online.

Sounds like good approach! Thanks!

BTW: Don't forget to give me some idea of what you need ($$) for it, 'kay?

Best Wishes,

Bruce

Nice article above, there. I'm writing a book on Taekgyeon (another spelling for the art of Taekkyon), and I've practiced it for 19 years. I don't necessarily agree with the article, but it certainly does help to see another person's viewpoint on it.

And the comment about the similarity between Capoeira and Taekkyon? Wow, that's the first time I've run into somebody beside myself making that observation.

Anyway, very good reading here. Thanks for posting everybody!

What is Taekgyeon musul?

Where did you learn it?

Many thanks! This will help a lot to fill-in an area that many folks don't do much digging in. During my visit to Korean a year or so ago, I had hoped to check-out some of the sources concerning life during the Occupation so as to get away from many of the generalizations and begin to deal with specifics. I was rather surprised at the reluctance I ran into. It was as though as long as I wanted only overviews I was "ok". When I started asking specific questions, say, about the role of the YMCA interventions with the Korean farmers I was still "ok". When things came around to the role of the police and Korean army, or government-sanctioned programs you could almost "hear" the doors slam. Thanks again.

Best Wishes,

Bruce


I get that alot too.....specially from the older people.....still working on it though.....somewhere along the way someone will spill the beans......my curiosity demands it.


the excessive nationalism is priceless ive never seen such a bad case of inferiority complex an xenophobia.......but i still got luv for my Kim Chi brethren

Osiris, sounds like you're back from the Sandbox and in the Land of the Morning Calm (before the storm). You in the 2nd ID? Hows life treating you these days in the land of kim ch'i and bibimbap?