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PizDoff
1/08/2007 8:59pm,
Taser International rolls out new civilian model stun gun amid protests

Mon Jan 8, 5:35 PM

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. (AP) - Taser International Inc. on Monday rolled out a new version of its stun gun intended for civilian use, calling the devices "the next generation in personal protection."

he new Taser C2, unveiled at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, come in a variety of colours, including metallic pink. Scottsdale-based Taser's primary customers now are police departments and the military.

The new weapon's introduction comes after a weekend that saw two people die after police shocked them with Taser devices.

A 45-year-old man died in Fort Pierce, Fla., on Saturday after police used a Taser to try to subdue him while he struggled with officers in the back of a patrol car. Douglas John Ilten, of Nashville, Tenn., had been stopped after acting erratically and throwing musical instruments out of a truck at a gas station.

On Sunday, police in New York City used a Taser to subdue an emotionally disturbed man at his Queens home. Blondel Lasseque, 38, went into cardiac arrest after being shocked and died.

Following the deaths and Taser's announcement of its new product, Amnesty International USA renewed its call for an independent and comprehensive study into their use. The group said more than 220 people have died after being shocked with Tasers by police and placing the stun guns in the hands of average citizens could have "devastating consequences."

Tasers shoot darts attached to wires from the gun and deliver a 50-thousand volt jolt of electricity, incapacitating the person.

"How many deaths related to these devices must occur before we have concrete, impartial information that accurately describes the potential dangers of use?" said Larry Cox, executive director for Amnesty International.

Taser says 30 different wrongful death or injury claims have been dismissed or successfully defended in recent years and claims it has not lost a product liability suit.

Taser hopes the latest version helps broaden its sales. The company introduced a civilian model in 2004, but many states banned them or required background checks.

The new gun is designed to make it easier for consumers to comply with state laws and buy the devices. The C2 can't be activated until the buyer completes a process known as SureCheck, an online background check that can be done in about a minute.

"The Taser C2 is the next generation in personal protections," company Chairman Tom Smith said. "Taser International was founded to create safer personal protection alternatives, while utilizing technologies to maximize public safety and minimize the potential for misuse - and the Taser C2 continues in that tradition.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/technology_gadget_show_new_taser

I have this strange feeling I'm going to be hit by a tazer in the future. I'll be sure to resurrect this thread when I do.

alex
1/08/2007 10:24pm,
america once again at the forefront of taking us back to the fucking dark ages where morons carrying weapons was a regular everyday thing.

Don Gwinn
1/08/2007 11:23pm,
You train in the art of cutting people's faces open with your elbows, twig-boy. No need to share your opinion of how violent everybody else is.

American anti-gunners are never happy. That gun's too small, this one's too big, and they're all too lethal--except this one, which is too non-lethal.

That said, I'd rather have a gun anyway. I see TASERs as more useful to people who also carry guns, radios and co-workers.

alex
1/08/2007 11:57pm,
its a sport, violence is a minor part. letting civilians own tazers is, i guess, not a big deal when they are already walking around with a .45, ready for their kids to to take to school next time someone calls them an emo.

BackFistMonkey
1/09/2007 12:06am,
its a sport, violence is a minor part. letting civilians own tazers is, i guess, not a big deal when they are already walking around with a .45, ready for their kids to to take to school next time someone calls them an emo.

You talk your talk like that around my town and I will taze your lily white emo ass . But would I shoot over of it ? Hell no , that would be irresponsible and irrational .

plasma
1/09/2007 1:10am,
america once again at the forefront of taking us back to the fucking dark ages where morons carrying weapons was a regular everyday thing.


Stun guns are non-lethal Kiwi. My dormmate from college, his brother got jumped and beaten by 3 guys with......ready for it.....golf clubs. Ended up in the hospital. An unarmed civilian is still in danger, unless we outlaw golf. I really don't care, golf sucks.

alex
1/09/2007 1:32am,
hey i quite like golf. im amazed that people can watch it though its like watching sunbathing or something. except fully clothed old men sunbathing. stun guns arent non lethal, they are "less lethal" (not that it makes them any less of a weapon)

kommander
1/09/2007 10:31pm,
There are several problems with tasers, but in the end I think they are useful tools in the hands of people who know how and when to use them. I think the primary problem stems from the fact that early on many police thought of them as compliance devices like mace or a night stick. Tasers really should only be used when someones life is being endangered by another due to their nasty tendency to "accidentally" kill people.

I personally have no use for a taser. A one shot taser is a poor replacement for a multi shot pistol when someone is trying to kill you. However if somone wants one I will not oppose it.

Alex check out http://www.gunfacts.info/

33gles
1/09/2007 10:44pm,
Tasers save lives. Cop lives, Criminal lives. Yes, occaisionally someone kicks it, but why? How much has to do with other health problems, altered body chemistry, and intense stress of most arrests? If you wanted to ban things that can push ill/drugged/stressed people into cardiac arrest, well, you'd better ban thunder, or loud shouts, or paper bags full of air.

Criminals and criminal behaviour need regulation, not inanimate objects.

edit: or old age, or comedy, or sports, or walking, or eating, or...

money
1/09/2007 10:57pm,
I think the only situations where people have died have been from the police ones, where they hit someone 3, 5 or even 10 times in a row. I don't believe there's been any reported fatalities among the civilian ones.

I think they should only be used when the only other alternative is to shoot someone. Personally I'd rather get tasered than shot.

NunOnBreak
1/10/2007 2:42am,
This one guy got tasered in the eyes, and they exploded.

But seriously, does it come in pink? Valentines day is coming up.

alex
1/10/2007 3:04am,
There are several problems with tasers, but in the end I think they are useful tools in the hands of people who know how and when to use them. I think the primary problem stems from the fact that early on many police thought of them as compliance devices like mace or a night stick. Tasers really should only be used when someones life is being endangered by another due to their nasty tendency to "accidentally" kill people.

I personally have no use for a taser. A one shot taser is a poor replacement for a multi shot pistol when someone is trying to kill you. However if somone wants one I will not oppose it.

Alex check out http://www.gunfacts.info/

im sorry, was that laughable link of bullshit supposed to help or hinder your cause? i especially like "Guns are used 65 times more often to prevent a crime than to commit one"

the only thing funnier than the steaming pile of bullshit you put under my nose there is that the guy who wrote it has a fucking moronic hat (http://www.guysmith.org/blog)

kommander
1/10/2007 4:12am,
Hey I like that hat!

Unlike most papers like this the author has bothered to cite where he got his numbers from so feel free to check them yourself if you like. I am impressed you read it though.

alex
1/10/2007 6:24am,
i can word any statistic you give me (especially if i just pick the ones that make my cause look better) to sound better than it is.

Don Gwinn
1/10/2007 1:00pm,
Silly hats are well-established in western philosophy as the sign of a man who is not afraid of anything. Crack a book, man, seriously. Besides, Kiwis don't wear broad-brimmed hats? Australians love 'em, and you guys are basically Australia without all the culture and refinement, right?

Anyway, we don't have political arguments in here. That stuff goes to Sociocide or something. Here we discuss the weapons. I don't see the TASER being that useful to the average citizen. I'd own one just because it's an interesting weapon, but I don't have much use for something that knocks someone down for a few seconds and leaves him tired but intact. If you had five co-workers ready to pile on and disarm him, sure, but it's not great by yourself, and in most of the U.S., you could carry a pistol in the same spot you'd carry the TASER. That would make more sense for most people.

Epicurus
1/10/2007 1:06pm,
Okay, so the U.S. is cool with people carrying handguns but not tasers? What would a study on the dangers of BEING SHOT BY A HANDGUN look like compared to the one on being tasered?

I don't really know that much about U.S. laws on weapons, but I think there's a parallel here between the "marijuana is illegal but cigarettes are okay" situation.