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Kid Miracleman
8/16/2008 12:36pm,
Damn... it's kinda strange to see TheRuss finally getting pissed off and losing his patience. Then again, it's not at all unexpected. I'm surprised his politeness with Happeh lasted as long as it did.

HiThere
8/16/2008 12:45pm,
Happeh-lappeh-ding-dong, don't you think the photographer would choose how the model would hold his head? If the photographer noticed he was facing the wrong way he would tell him, or if he wanted him to face a certain way he would tell him.
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Do you have two eyes that the doctor says have good vision?

Do you have any kind of a brain? Even a dog brain or a mouse brain?

Look at those two pictures for 24 hours. Even your rat brain should be able to see the head has changed shape. It is not the photographer.

HiThere
8/16/2008 12:51pm,
Wrong.

This thread is - and has always been about - the claim that Jalon Anderson is a delusional pseudoscientist. That is why the title of this thread is "Jalon Anderson AKA Happah: delusional pseudo scientist"

Your theories about masturbation are only one aspect of your delusions.
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Reached the blatant lying stage have we Russ? First you say

Happeh said - This thread was about the claim by Happeh Theory that masturbation will make a human being blind and crippled.

The Russ said - Wrong.


Then The Russ says - Your theories about masturbation are only one aspect of your delusions.
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So which is it you lyng psycho? Is this thread about my theories on masturbation being correct, or not?

Lu Tze
8/16/2008 12:55pm,
You're very very ill happeh.

And not in the hip hop sense of the term.

HiThere
8/16/2008 12:59pm,
So, taking this into account, how do you prove that a twisted head makes one crippled?

You have already shown you will **** all over any reply I make to you. Why would I create another reply when I know you are going to **** on it?


Just because his body can't point straight forward he is crippled?

If you couldn't make your head face straight forward, would other people call you crippled?



First it's not his body, it's just his head. .

Most peoples heads are connected to their bodies.



Second, I see no reason why he can't just turn his head when he's finished posing, so you'd have to provide some evidence that he is UNABLE to point his head forward, .

You are not thinking. This is a foolish question.

If a human head is supposed to be square, but that human head is a circle, what difference does it make where it is pointing? No matter where the head points, it is still a circle when it is supposed to be a square.

I swear you guys need to go back to about 5th grade and get them to teach you how to think.



and third you'd have to show that being unable to do so is disabling in such a way that he cannot lead a normal life.

This question is also foolish. I said he needs to turn his head to see clearly. He can turn his head mostly anywhere he wants.

A human being with two good eyes will naturall look straight forward so that both eyes have a clear field of vision straight ahead. A masturbation blinded person will turn their head to focus the one good eye on the subject of their interest. They can turn their head anyway they want mostly, but they will only be able to see clearly when their head is at an angle that focuses the eye not damaged by masturbation on the subject of interest.

HiThere
8/16/2008 1:01pm,
So the picture proves irrefutably that he can't turn his head to the left? That is your big honking heap of scientific method at work?

I didn't say that.

How did you get a college degree? You don't even understand english.

HiThere
8/16/2008 1:02pm,
You're right. The workout's over for now.

Damn. It is really amazing how the Bi Sexual Arjuna tells people to do something and they do it.

First it was Toby Christensen. Now it's TheRuss.

Why do you guys take orders from a Bi Sexual? Does he provide sexual favors to you?

HiThere
8/16/2008 1:12pm,
.............#1, #2, and #3 are acceptable. #4 and #6 are also acceptable.

I think I see what you are doing......




The primary error in logic is in #5, which is a non-sequitur fallacy. That is, the difference between two photos of a subject does not by itself imply that the subject underwent a physiological change.

OK.




Evidence: I could pose for two photos. In the first, I would face directly towards the camera. In the second, I would face towards the left of the camera. These two photos could be taken in a matter of seconds - one, then the other. The material difference would be there despite the fact that I have undergone no physiological change..

Here is where you start to fall apart. I think you are saying that if a photographer took your picture from the left, that your face would look like the man's face when it is turned to the left. That is not true, unless your face is damaged by masturbation.

If your face is normal, ie not damaged by masturbation, it will not look like the picture of the man with his face turned to the left.



For the record, #10 is another logical error - correlation does not imply causality. There are other mistakes, but they are less important to this lesson..

Number 5 is not an error. You have made assumptions that are incorrect, which have led you to an incorrect conclusion.



Now, having demonstrated that your reasoning is incorrect, I will advance another hypothesis. I do not assert that it is correct, but that according to Occam's Razor, it is more likely than yours..

But you haven't proved anything at all.

I tell you what. Let's see you prove yourself. You must have a cell phone. Take a picture of your face straight on, then take a picture of your face turning to the left. We will compare them to the photo I posted and see if you are right.


Of course since that will prove you are wrong, you will make up some excuse about why you cannot post pictures of your own face to support your claims.

I post pictures to support everything I say. Be a man and post pictures to support your claim.

HiThere
8/16/2008 1:17pm,
Prove to us that he can not move his head.

How do you get by in engineering? Engineering requires careful reading and careful building. You cannot read a paragraph on a forums and get the right meaning out of it, so how can you read engineering documents and get the right meaning out of them.

I did not say he could not turn his head to the left. I said masturbation made his head tend to turn to his masturbating hand, the right hand.



I want you to sit down with this guy, with a video camera and show us exactly how crippled he is. Show us the FACT that this guy can't move his head to face the camera.

Here is your chance Danniboi. You write an email to that man. You explain to him what you want, you want him to come to me for an hour or so in order for me to examine him and make some determinations about his body.

If you can get that man to come to me, I will do exactly what you want me to. You tell me what you want proved, and I will prove it to you.

I know exactly what I am talking about, and I can prove it to anyone who is not a liar, not a hater, not a retard, or someone who is playing games.

Let me know when the man is coming by for his appointment.

Kid Miracleman
8/16/2008 1:20pm,
I tell you what. Let's see you prove yourself. You must have a cell phone. Take a picture of your face straight on, then take a picture of your face turning to the left. We will compare them to the photo I posted and see if you are right.

Of course since that will prove you are wrong, you will make up some excuse about why you cannot post pictures of your own face to support your claims.

I post pictures to support everything I say. Be a man and post pictures to support your claim.I have a suggestion... perhaps YOU can post pictures of YOURSELF first? I want to see how masturbation (or the lack thereof) has affected your physical features, stance, the angle you hold your head, etc. Let us see if you practice what you preach.

Lu Tze
8/16/2008 1:22pm,
This question is also foolish. I said he needs to turn his head to see clearly. He can turn his head mostly anywhere he wants.

A human being with two good eyes will naturall look straight forward so that both eyes have a clear field of vision straight ahead. A masturbation blinded person will turn their head to focus the one good eye on the subject of their interest.No, it is your premise which is foolish.

The subject of a photograph does not need to look directly at the camera, his "subject of interest" is irrelevant. Where a subject is looking isn't a function of their vision but a function of artistic license. See, photography is an art form, the photographer will get his subject to face any fucking way he pleases, dimwit. The fact that you don't understand this very simplistic concept, and instead attribute it to some convoluted conspiracy is testament to your own stupidity.

You have not proven even one aspect of your "theory" happeh. You're a crackpot who can only ever peddle this bullshit on the internet, because people tend to get nervous when face to face with a patent fucking lunatic. The fact that you resort to insults when pressed is very telling of your level of intelligence.

Face up to the fact that you're a hopeless, degenerate loser... you won't be any happier for it, but you sure as **** will be quieter, so that's a win for everyone else at least.
Why do you guys take orders from a Bi Sexual? Does he provide sexual favors to you?Why are you so obsessed with sexuality? Why do you go on and on about homosexuals and bisexuals?

Want to know what I think? I think you have homosexual urges, and what's more, submissive tendencies, which you're fighting hard against. In other words, you doth protest too much, ******.

JingMerchant!
8/16/2008 1:22pm,
Happeh,

I have a question about that photo and the photo's in general, If as you say, you are a continual thorn in the side of World Domination, then surely you would have come to the attention of this monolithic entity. World Domination being smart (They'd have to be ruling the world and everything!) would want you to be shut down...

If Happeh theory is accurate and all these photo's offer proof of what you say, surely it would be in the best interest of World Domination to doctor the photo's to make them symmetrical and 'normal' to further discredit you. Because the correctness of Happeh theory would go someway to proving the existence of W.D.

Ah, i hear you cry 'You Guize don't believe me anyway because you've been brain washed by W.D.!!' But that is beside the point, ANY evidence left laying around is going to be a bad thing for them. It is evidence for future generations that, as you said, would recognise you when you aren't recognized now (Van Gogh remember?).

If Happeh theory was correct, W.D would want to discredit it by making sure there was no proof of it, yet there is so much proof laying around in the media in the form of asymmetric photo's. With computer readjustment they could make it possible to sink happeh theory for good?

What do you say to this?

Zapruder
8/16/2008 1:26pm,
You have already shown you will **** all over any reply I make to you. Why would I create another reply when I know you are going to **** on it?



If you couldn't make your head face straight forward, would other people call you crippled?



Most peoples heads are connected to their bodies.



You are not thinking. This is a foolish question.

If a human head is supposed to be square, but that human head is a circle, what difference does it make where it is pointing? No matter where the head points, it is still a circle when it is supposed to be a square.

I swear you guys need to go back to about 5th grade and get them to teach you how to think.



This question is also foolish. I said he needs to turn his head to see clearly. He can turn his head mostly anywhere he wants.

A human being with two good eyes will naturall look straight forward so that both eyes have a clear field of vision straight ahead. A masturbation blinded person will turn their head to focus the one good eye on the subject of their interest. They can turn their head anyway they want mostly, but they will only be able to see clearly when their head is at an angle that focuses the eye not damaged by masturbation on the subject of interest.


While this is all well and good, I would like to move to the more advanced information. Could we please move back to the "phrenology" of the asshole. I learned more from your circling of assholes than in all my 7 years in college. The subtle lines drip with information, every wrinkle a Dostoyevsky novel. Please Jalon can we get back to the meat and potatoes of your theory, I wish to learn more so that I may one day carry on your work.

Kid Miracleman
8/16/2008 1:34pm,
If "World Domination" is so powerful and omnipresent, then why isn't Happeh dead already? Wouldn't they want to snuff him out as soon as possible before he causes too much trouble with all the knowledge he's gained?

I really wonder, because I doubt Happeh is smart or clever enough to evade capture and/or assassination all these years.

Zapruder
8/16/2008 1:38pm,
If "World Domination" is so powerful and omnipresent, then why isn't Happeh dead already? Wouldn't they want to snuff him out as soon as possible before he causes too much trouble with all the knowledge he's gained?

I really wonder, because I doubt Happeh is smart or clever enough to evade capture and/or assassination all these years.

SHHHHHH. We are trying to get back on topic here...

TheRuss
8/16/2008 1:49pm,
It is really amazing how the Bi Sexual Arjuna tells people to do something and they do it.

He understands why I am participating in this thread (pathos).
He has knowledge of the goals I have been trying to achieve (ethos).
This allows him to give valid advice to me about when and how to post (logos).

Another argument in favor of Aristotelian rhetoric.

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This thread was about the claim by Happeh Theory that masturbation will make a human being blind and crippled. How does knowing what I did in regard to Iran or Tony Blair, have anything at all to do with masturbation will make a human being blind and crippled?


Wrong.

This thread is - and has always been about - the claim that Jalon Anderson is a delusional pseudoscientist. That is why the title of this thread is "Jalon Anderson AKA Happah: delusional pseudo scientist"

Your theories about masturbation are only one aspect of your delusions.


So which is it you lyng psycho? Is this thread about my theories on masturbation being correct, or not?

You have confused "this thread is about Jalon's theories about masturbation along with his other delusions" with "this thread is only about masturbation and nothing else". The former is true, the latter is false. You would have known this if you had read the post you quoted.

Because this thread is about you being a delusional pseudoscientist, it is not only about masturbation. It is about any and all of your delusions and pseudoscience. Masturbation causing blindness and deformity is only one of your delusions. If we talk about how deluded you are about masturbation, we are on topic. If we talk about how deluded you are about any other subject that you have expressed deluded ideas about, we are still on topic.


If you do not want your claims to be questioned, stop making them.


Did you completely lose your mind or something? I can do anything I want.

You don't want me to challenge your fallacious claims. If you keep making fallacious claims, I will challenge them as I see fit.

If you can do "anything you want", why can't you make me stop challenging your fallacious claims? Why can't you do something about my supposed "game", rather than just whining about it?


What's the problem TheRuss?

The problem is that you embrace "Chaotic, muddy, unclear thinking" under the mistaken impression that it will lead to truth. There are a great many forms that productive thought can take, but what you have embraced is not productive thought. It is defective thought that will thwart any real achievement.

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You have made assumptions that are incorrect, which have led you to an incorrect conclusion.

Refer to your original post, particularly the section of it that I attempted to summarize, then compare it to what you are saying now:


The old man's face is pointed right. Why would the man's face point right? Why doesn't he look straight at the camera like he did when he was young?


I think you are saying that if a photographer took your picture from the left, that your face would look like the man's face when it is turned to the left. That is not true, unless your face is damaged by masturbation.

According to the first quote, his pose is the damage. According to the second quote, his pose reveals other damage. This is a crucial difference, and one you should be aware of.

In any case, let's assume that this was an honest misunderstanding. You have a gold-plated opportunity to set the record straight.

Simply take your argument and express it in deductive form. You can take mine and make any changes you see fit, or you can start from scratch. I fully expect at least one of your premises to be incorrect, but you'd at least have made your case clearly.

Also, this way you're not relying on me to post pictures.


I think you are saying that if a photographer took your picture from the left, that your face would look like the man's face when it is turned to the left. That is not true, unless your face is damaged by masturbation.

This is not what I am saying. See the discussion on pose vs. defect a few paragraphs up. My thought experiment about pose (not defect) should apply to anyone with full mobility in their neck, whether or not they have facial defects. It has nothing to do with what my face looks like.

But while we're on the subject of me... Jalon, does masturbation affect one's visual acuity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_acuity#Visual_acuity_expression)?