YouTube - Dragonball Z teaches real life kung fu information #1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3IGBZ0lZkY)
Much like DaxFlame, I now can't decide if this is all a big con or not.
happeh
6/03/2008 9:09am,
Horizontally as muscles can only contract in a single direction. Whether I am squatting to pick up a pencil, squatting 6 plates, or . . . ugh . . . squeezing a book between my ass cheeks the contraction of the gluteus maximus will always be the same.
"Muscles can only contract in a single direction" I might agree with this. But then you use that word horizontally in front of it. Muscles run in all different directions. The contracting force in reference to the muscle might be in one direction only, but in reference to the body, there would be all different kinds of muscle directions.
I really don't understand your claim about contraction of the gluteaus always being the same. I just did my exercise, and I feel my butt cheeks pressing towards each other. When I do a squat with no weight, just a body squat, I feel a vertical stretching from the bottom to the top of the butt cheek.
Are we using different definitions of what a squat is?
Unless you're pulling off some bene gesserit ****, which I hate to tell you is all made up, individual muscles only move in a single direction during contraction and retraction. How they work in conjunction with other muscles can change the visible outcome of what you see, but the individual muscle does the same thing every time.
By the by, compound exercises like squats have a much greater impact on the power of individual muscle groups than isolation exercises like . . .ugh . . squeezing a book between my ass cheeks.
You read Dune? Maybe you really are a chemical engineer. I disagree with your claim that Bene Gesserit "****" is all made up. Herbert took factual material from the world around him, gussied it up a bit, and put it in the book. You ever notice how Fremen and Dune seem alot like Arabs and the Middle East? Spice is Oil? The Imperials are the West?
You know? If you wear underwear, your book will stay clean. No reason for the ugh's and eww's. Unless your butt stinks real bad? Maybe take a shower first?
happeh
6/03/2008 9:15am,
Ok, I'm gonna bite, because I like you. I'm going to post a few pictures of my beautiful self, and you can deface my image with your penis drawing thing. Because I'm a nice guy. And to make it extra sciency, I'm not going to tell you whether or not I masturbate, and if so, how frequently.
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj4/TheMightyMcClaw/AlexandBuddha2.jpg?t=1212444867
The pictures are awful for me to diagnose. In this first picture, my first impression is to say I don't see any obvious changes to the face or upper body. The body is twisting for some reason, but I cannot tell what it is because of the camera angle. The second picture is bad because it is so far from the subject. I think I see something going on with the face, but I would not stake my reputation on it.
BudoMonkey
6/03/2008 9:40am,
And what a reputation it is!
DannyMac
6/03/2008 9:43am,
"Muscles can only contract in a single direction" I might agree with this. But then you use that word horizontally in front of it. Muscles run in all different directions. The contracting force in reference to the muscle might be in one direction only, but in reference to the body, there would be all different kinds of muscle directions.
The muscles of the buttocks only contract horizontally as that is how they are setup. Just as the biceps are setup to pull the lower arm to the upper arm, and the triceps are set to pull the lower arm away from the upper arm. Individual muscle groups work in a unilateral fashion. My bicep can only contract in a single way, same as my gluteus maximus.
I really don't understand your claim about contraction of the gluteaus always being the same. I just did my exercise, and I feel my butt cheeks pressing towards each other. When I do a squat with no weight, just a body squat, I feel a vertical stretching from the bottom to the top of the butt cheek.
Are we using different definitions of what a squat is?
The muscle building motion of the squat comes during the move back upwards. You should feel the stretching during the depth of the movement, but you're not getting to be able to hit a big squat without contracting your butt as hard as possible during the move upwards. Professional squatters pretty much all have huge asses for these very reason.
If you want to feel something similar do a standard deadlift. You can't lock out the motion without clinching your butt together at the top.
You read Dune? Maybe you really are a chemical engineer.
You're confusing me with the DanniBoi as I am not a chemical engineer. Coinciendentally I am an enginer, but I am an IE (Industrial Engineer) and not a ChemE.
I've read Dune at least 7 times, but have never finished the series.
I disagree with your claim that Bene Gesserit "****" is all made up. Herbert took factual material from the world around him, gussied it up a bit, and put it in the book. You ever notice how Fremen and Dune seem alot like Arabs and the Middle East? Spice is Oil? The Imperials are the West?
Inspired by real life and real are two very different things. Jurassic Park was based on real things as well, but I'm noticing a distinct lack of Dinosaur based Theme Parks even 20 years later. Of course, I also don't think Dragon Ball Z is going help me develop Teh Real Kung-Fu.
You know? If you wear underwear, your book will stay clean. No reason for the ugh's and eww's. Unless your butt stinks real bad? Maybe take a shower first?
My ugh are based in the stupidity of the movement and the general uncomfortableness of the concept of doing Ass Kegel.
TheMightyMcClaw
6/03/2008 9:56am,
The pictures are awful for me to diagnose. In this first picture, my first impression is to say I don't see any obvious changes to the face or upper body. The body is twisting for some reason, but I cannot tell what it is because of the camera angle. The second picture is bad because it is so far from the subject. I think I see something going on with the face, but I would not stake my reputation on it.
The reason my body is twisting is because I'm looking off into the distance, over my shoulder. If you look over your shoulder, you're body will twist as well.
Try this one, and see if works better.
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj4/TheMightyMcClaw/HumanCouch.jpg?t=1212504973
happeh
6/03/2008 10:20am,
You are not gonna like this.
Sorry buddy, but I, JUST LIKE ALL THE PHOTOS ON YOUR WEBSITES, was posing. Yes it's quite simple to lean to the left or right for a photo.
Your claims have been built off of irrational logic and unfound ideas.
My claims are built on years of experience and thought.
I agree that people can be posed in various ways. I feel you are not being thorough. When a person was posed for a photo, they would hold that particular pose. But the individual idiosyncracies of their body will play a part in the picture. For instance. Let's agree we have a person with one big butt cheek and one small butt cheek. Then we take that person and pose them with one leg up on a chair, and one leg on the ground. They have their head turned to face the camera, and their hands are on their hips.
The details of the pose will be the same for any human being. Leg on chair, leg on ground, head looking, hands on hips. But this particular human being we are using for an example, will show a small butt cheek and a big butt cheek. The individual changes to the body are independent of the pose that body is put into.
If you are a chemical engineer, then you must pay attention to detail. If you did not pay attention to detail, there is no way you could have passed your classes.
I have a very simple and obvious question to ask you. One that should play right into your trigonometry and geometry classes. When you lean over to the right, what is it that determines the exact angle that you lean? Why does your body or head stop leaning at the exact angle that it does?
If you say you mentally chose to stop leaning there, I would disagree with you. The human body will naturally move to spots that it feels comfortable in. It is my claim that the comfortable position that your body stops leaning, is the position that your body takes when you masturbate. We cannot verify that of course. Only you can. You need to go masturbate in front of a mirror, and see if you lean like you are leaning in the picture above. Do you lean to the exact same angle or very close to it? If so, why?
You can visualize masturbation as wearing a groove in your body. When you lean over to the right, your body will stop in that groove that masturbation has put there.
When you lean, the right side of your mouth and the outside of the right eye droop.
The question again is, "what determines the exact amount of droop of the eye and the mouth?". You might think the droop is determined by how much you lean. If you lean alot, your leaning body pulls on your mouth and eye and makes the droop more.
It is my position that masturbation will actually shrink those areas of the body. So the drooping look is a combination of masturbation caused shrinking and the amont of body lean.
The next picture is one you should think about alot.
The line in the picture is the boundary of where masturbation is pulling your body. Masturbation will pull everything above the penis down towards the penis. You can think of masturbation as pulling the part of your body on the left side of the line, down towards the part of your body on the right side of the line. The exact arc of the line follows how your......energy body has shifted within your physical body. If you don't believe in energy bodies, that will have to be a different discussion.
A related observation is your left ear. Where is your left ear?
Of course your ear is still there, but your head is rotated so the ear is not visible. Why is your head rotated? You said you leaned to the right. Did you consciously rotate your head to hide the left ear? Or did your head just rotate and you never noticed it, because you don't pay close attention to how your body works and what condition it is in?
Your left ear is missing because the left side of your head is shrinking. As the left side of your head shrinks, your head no longer responds properly to the commands you give it. You tell your head to be straight, but because the right side muscles are stronger than the left side muscles, your head is biased to the right. Your sensations, your nerves, the feedback your brain recieves, tells you that your head is straight. But to any one else, or in a mirror, your head is not straight.
If you want a non-posing picture of myself, fine. Here, have at it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/danniboi07/Photo11.jpg
I want you to start right here, right now. I'm more than willing to see your evidence, and I'm even more willing to scrutinize and investigate it.
The front of your head is shrunken on the left side of the boundary in this picture.
The change to the size of the left side of your head has affected the shape of the face and cheeks. There is a boundary between the front part of the cheek and the side of the cheek. On the right side of your face, the cheek boundary is in line with the outside of your eye. On the left side of your face, the shrunken side, the boundary has moved inwards so that it cuts through your eye.
The observant person will notice the left cheek boundary seems to match the boundary on the forehead in the previous picture where the forehead was claimed to be shrinking.
The shrinkage of the left side of the head has changed your jawline as shown below. The right side of the jaw looks like straight lines. The left side kind of curves and jiggles. It is not straight.
The chin is also not symmetric. The point of the right side of the chin is at one location in relation to the rest of the head, while the point on the left side of the chin is more to the outside of the body and upwards. The left point of the chin is not symmetric with the point on the right side of the chin.
This did not include looking at pictures and drawing conclusions based on initial impulses. This included actual investigation into the sexual lives of human beings. This involved EXTENSIVE work lasting years. Their work has been evaluated, investigated, scrutinized, and eventually found legit by the entire health community. This is far more than I have seen from anything you have yet to produce.
Why do you think I base what I do on initial impulses? How much time do you think I have spent on these ideas? Why makes you believe I have not done any investigation?
You are jumping to conclusions in your haste to discredit me.
happeh
6/03/2008 10:36am,
Next question Happeh, when you say things like "30% blind" what do you mean? Are you talking about acuity of vision, color perception...
Acuity of vision, Sphere of vision, and energy sensing ability
jsteel
6/03/2008 10:45am,
happeh: You point out all the physical alterations that can happen as a result of masturbating but I don't see what the point is. I am not going to stop pleasuring myself just because my jawline is not symmetrical.
Benefits of jerking off > slightly asymmetrical face
P.S. You should talk to a chiropractor about why a person's shoulder might be lower than the other.
happeh
6/03/2008 10:49am,
If you want to feel something similar do a standard deadlift. You can't lock out the motion without clinching your butt together at the top.
This I sort of have a feeling for. The locking the butt together at the top. I want to be completely clear about this though. To me, what I feel, the squat is one type of motion all the way up to the top, then at the top there is a different motion that makes the butt go together.
My exercise only does the top of the squat butt squeeze together. I don't feel any of the squat motion when I do my exercise. So my exercise seems like it is isolating one specific point of the squat and only doing that part of it.
I've read Dune at least 7 times, but have never finished the series.
Mistake. The later books are almost as good if not better than the early ones. They are so good I wonder if Herbert left notes for them when he died. The series really is a masterwork that I bet will be talked about in 500 years still.
Inspired by real life and real are two very different things. Jurassic Park was based on real things as well, but I'm noticing a distinct lack of Dinosaur based Theme Parks even 20 years later. Of course, I also don't think Dragon Ball Z is going help me develop Teh Real Kung-Fu.
I claim that Dragonball Z can provide insight into kung fu. It can and does. I don't know why that is so strange. If you made a kung fu cartoon, wouldn't you make the characters do movements from your kung fu style?
Then if I watched the cartoon, I would see cartoon characters doing your real life kung fu movements. I can learn about your kung fu, from the way you show me how your kung fu moves with your kung fu cartoon characters.
I do NOT claim that a person can learn how to punch or kick from DBZ. That is an example. The things found in DBZ are all of a more philosophical or theoretical nature. They tell you what kung fu can do for the body, develop telepathy for instance, or how the body will physically change from doing kung fu, like giving you a tail for instance, and they provide ways to visualize energy, which is invisible. That is what is really great about cartoons or any TV. You can use special effects to show invisible stuff to people who are not evolved or elevated enough yet to see invisible stuff on their own.
My ugh are based in the stupidity of the movement and the general uncomfortableness of the concept of doing Ass Kegel.
It's ok if you call it stupid, because I don't think you understand what is going on. It is common for men to freak out at talk of the butt. There is this instinctive reaction of thinking of something going into the butt, and we all know real men don't have anything to do with that.
You ought to get over it. Your butt is part of your body. As long as you think it is dirty or something you don't like, at a subconscious level you will ignore it. Your butt needs your love, attention, energy, and blood flow just like the rest of you does if you want to be the complete 100% kung fu man.
Don't let the forces of evil make you dislike a part of yourself. It will weaken you.
Evil Solvalou
6/03/2008 10:53am,
Hey happeh, could someone use your books for your exercise? Because shoving them up your arse is about the only useful application I can think of for them.
And do you really think there is a bunch of political and economic leaders sitting around a conference table saying "How can we control the masses? Should we drug their food and water, or start a propaganda campaign, or use military and police powers to control the people?"
"No, let's tell the people that masturbating is healthy and then go to the trouble of silence the vast majority of scientists, doctors and teachers all around the world, creating false research papers claiming it's healthy and supress any contradictory evidence as well as covering up any and all anecdotal evidence, just to keep some people slightly less healthy than they would have otherwise been."
For the sake of everyone, whip it out and give it a pull. It'll do you the world of good.
jsteel
6/03/2008 11:23am,
... and they provide ways to visualize energy, which is invisible.
I guess you've never turned on a light before or have been out in the sun.
Biggest. Douchebag. Ever.
TheMightyMcClaw
6/03/2008 11:30am,
I claim that Dragonball Z can provide insight into kung fu. It can and does. I don't know why that is so strange. If you made a kung fu cartoon, wouldn't you make the characters do movements from your kung fu style?
Then if I watched the cartoon, I would see cartoon characters doing your real life kung fu movements. I can learn about your kung fu, from the way you show me how your kung fu moves with your kung fu cartoon characters.
I do NOT claim that a person can learn how to punch or kick from DBZ. That is an example. The things found in DBZ are all of a more philosophical or theoretical nature. They tell you what kung fu can do for the body, develop telepathy for instance, or how the body will physically change from doing kung fu, like giving you a tail for instance, and they provide ways to visualize energy, which is invisible. That is what is really great about cartoons or any TV. You can use special effects to show invisible stuff to people who are not evolved or elevated enough yet to see invisible stuff on their own.
I realize, this is getting a bit off topic, but....
-Goku has a tail because he's a Saiyan/analogue of the Monkey King, not because he learned karate.
-Secondly, doing Kung Fu will not develope telepathy. If it did, then my kung fu instructor from two years ago would've realized how abyssmally dissapointing his classes were.
-Thirdly, and most importantly, Dragon Ball Z is a terrible fucking show. It is up there with .hack//sign and Weiss Kreutz for the worst pieces of anime I have ever subjected myself to. Akira Toriyama can draw great monsters, but is limited to about three different faces he can put on people. Moreover, the show consists almost entirely of filler, with virtually nothing happening in any given episode.
You could learn more about the deeper nature of the universe by watching any other anime. The original Science Ninja Team Gatchaman has more to offer than Dragon Ball Z.
JingMerchant!
6/03/2008 11:46am,
Angrypenis.org???
It's times like this that I wish i gave some credence to Freud's theories, because he would have a field day with you good sir!!
Anyway, provide proof to IIF's questions...
It is my position that those books you cite are part of the lies meant to stop investigation into the effects of masturbation and sex on the human body. If you look into history, you will find many cultures from all over the world say that too much sex is bad for people. If you look into history you can find examples of Cultures that venerated Sex. Dan Brown provides an anecdote of (Gnostic?) cultures that treated sex as there main means of communing with God.
The Karma Sutra provides examples of Sex being used as a focus for meditation.
Modern Occult methods, E.g The work of Alistair Crowley, using "Sex Magick" to experiment with altered states of consciousness.
Ancient Persian royalty used a method called 'Karezza' to pro-long the act of love-making.
And best of all, Taoist theory recommends masturbation AS PART OF A HEALTHY LIFESTYLE!!!! They called it 'Solo cultivation'!! It was a way of building ones energy, improving sexual, physical and mental health; not to mention sexual performance!! The methodology they used was very similar to the Tantrics...
I'll give you this, semen retention is a major factor in a lot of these systems, but really, to assert that excessive masturbation causes physical deformity??
Is this a Troll?
Because if it is, I am in awe sir!!!
But probably not, because the truth is often stranger than fiction....
And just HOW does it do that? The proof section on your page just involves pictures of someone's (Probably yours *Shudder*) ring-piece..... And your argument as to why could be summed up thusly :- "If you wack off, don't spurt, then check your asshole, if your brown eye is tense YOU HAVE TEH DEFORMITY!!!11!!!"
To quote the Q. "What the **** man? What the ****??" Position of the Palm? Deformity caused by Pud-pulling?? Twanging guitar string theory??? By the way, why does the complex explanation section of your theory have so many pics of the same naked guy on it?????? Some of them aren't even used as an explaination, they're just.... there!!! I'm at my uni, I had to shut that **** down!!!!
Dude, Dude!!
Loads of pics of naked men with schlong out?
An obsession with masturbation?
Repeated pics of someone's brown eye?
Really, how does that sound to you???
Angrypenis.org????????????
DannyMac
6/03/2008 11:47am,
My exercise only does the top of the squat butt squeeze together. I don't feel any of the squat motion when I do my exercise. So my exercise seems like it is isolating one specific point of the squat and only doing that part of it.
You are exactly right, which is where I go back to the point about how compound movements generate greater overall power than isolation movements. Which leads us full circle to the point that if you want to make your buttocks strong you should do squats and deadlifts. There are a host of strongman competitors, amateur and pro, that will bear this out.
As soon as I see Mariuz Pudzianowski attribute his four World's Strongest Man titles to the Book in the Ass method, I'll give it credence. Right now you're just doing the butt equivalent of curls in the squat rack.
Mistake. The later books are almost as good if not better than the early ones. They are so good I wonder if Herbert left notes for them when he died. The series really is a masterwork that I bet will be talked about in 500 years still.
Please god by later books you mean things like God Emperor, Heretics, Chapterhouse, et. al and not the LOOK CLONING brings everyone back crap that Kevin Anderson and Brian Herbert are subjecting people to. I'll let Tycho finish that one out for me:
It's ok if you call it stupid, because I don't think you understand what is going on.
I do and it all relates to Ass Kegel + complete lack of understanding with regards to kinesiology = Waste of Time.
You ought to get over it. Your butt is part of your body. As long as you think it is dirty or something you don't like, at a subconscious level you will ignore it. Your butt needs your love, attention, energy, and blood flow just like the rest of you does if you want to be the complete 100% kung fu man.
My ass gets plenty of love. I was swinging 32 Kg worth of kettlebell this morning to go with standing military press (this is super hard on your ass), and suitcase deadlifts with kettlebells. I wager my ass is currently obscenely stronger than yours, because I actually know how to train it for maximum power.
Plus I stack up my hasn't been trained seriously in 12 years wrestling versus your average Kung Fu man everday of the week and twice on Sunday.
fedeykin
6/03/2008 11:49am,
there is nobody with a completely symmetrical body, it just doesnt exit. aside from the genetical misperfections, the body is split in two halves. it is a medical fact that you have two brains, your right brain controling your left body, and your left brain controlling your right body.
as right handers favor the right arm, the muscles on the two sides are uneven.
then theres habbits, and lifestyle. the way you sit, stand or sleep will cause minor spine curvatures, because not many people actualy think about staying in ideal positions. being overweight or underweight will also cause issues with the spine.
there are so many things that impact your appearance, and the symmetry in your body that i wouldnt be surprised if which hand you use to masterbate will cause some effect on you. if you do it enough muscles will build up in the arm you use, just as with any repeated excercise.
to claim that it has negative effects because of this is pure ludricrous. present proof of your claims that masterbation causes bad things to happen. so far, from all scientific evidance i have seen, and from experiance, masterbation has only positive effects as long as its not done in extreme amounts.
however, i do believe that an obsession with symmetry can be indicative of a pyschological disorder.
edit: i recommend you see a shrink, cause you obviously have some major freudian obsessions straight out of the book.
