This might be a long shot, but I'm wondering if you guys can recommend any serious BJJ schools in Germany, specifically/hopefully in the Berlin area.

I googled and couldn't find anything that really screamed "legit and experienced."

onthemat.com was also of no help.

I've known about MMA Berlin ( http://www.mma-berlin.de/ ) for a while, but I'm a little suspicious of their credentials.

I mean, one of their *trainers* has been with them just since 2004 and his only prior experience is listed as Aikido... Also, nobody is forthcoming with their ranks in arts like Judo or BJJ...

Anyway, I'll be e-mailing them with my questions.

So back to my real question: where, if anywhere, can I train good BJJ in Germany?

Any other gym recommendations in the area would be welcomed as well.

http://www.alliance-berlin.de/main.htm

I found this by googling. The coach is purple under Fabio Gurgel. I don't know the BJJ scene in in Germany, but there is a possibility that there are no black belts if the scene isn't old enough yet. Sweden got its first native black belts two and a half years ago, for example.

I left Germany (Bayern) last year.

Ulf Ehlert is a good guy and last I see him he was a purple belt.

You have some schools further down south in Munchen, Bamberg, and Garmisch but thats a bit of a drive from you.

Check out:
http://www.bjjbd.de/

The German BJJ bund is ran by my first BJJ BB Michael Haselein. He should be able to point you in the right directions.

Thanks a lot, guys, this is exactly what I was looking for.

It's good to hear Ulf has good credentials, because his group looks like the one I'll most likely be training with. I'll drop Michael Haselein an e-mail, too, to get in touch with the BJJ world in Germany.

I'm planning to spend the 2007-2008 school year over there, and I didn't want to get involved with vat zhe chermans must call das Crapplen. =)

besides the above mentioned school you could also check out the following in berlin for grappling and mma :

http://www.jkdberlin.de/

in general, it is also helpful to look for luta livre schools in germany, since it is more common in certain areas than bjj

Thanks a lot, guys, this is exactly what I was looking for.

It's good to hear Ulf has good credentials, because his group looks like the one I'll most likely be training with. I'll drop Michael Haselein an e-mail, too, to get in touch with the BJJ world in Germany.

I'm planning to spend the 2007-2008 school year over there, and I didn't want to get involved with vat zhe chermans must call das Crapplen. =)
I might be back over there in April next year if I don't get a OCS school date before then. So I will keep an eye out for you.

Www.Luta-Livre.de

The guy who's in charge of the grappling at JKD Berlin seems to be a member of ELLO, seems like a pretty damn nice organisation, I trained at the Hanover school last week 2 times. the instructor knew his stuff, and was really nice and had no problem with me rolling in regular class even thou i dont speak any German.

Just a bit of thread necromancy to avoid starting a new one. I am heading over to Landstuhl in June of 09 and I am looking for anything in the area. I am based at Ft Polk right now and there is absolutely nothing in western Louisiana so I have not been actively learning for a while. Any information or points of contact will be appreciated. Thanks.

Fabio Gurgel! holy shitbricks. If you have the chance to train with one of his students do it!

Just a bit of thread necromancy to avoid starting a new one. I am heading over to Landstuhl in June of 09 and I am looking for anything in the area. I am based at Ft Polk right now and there is absolutely nothing in western Louisiana so I have not been actively learning for a while. Any information or points of contact will be appreciated. Thanks.

ok, since nobody tried to help you so far, i 'll give it a try:

as far as i see it, you are many miles away from any bjj/luta livre training in your area.
the nearest should be a luta livre school in ludwigshafen, which should be around 90 minutes by train from landstuhl. the homepage of this school is http://www.optimale-selbstverteidigung.de/

this basically means the for germany usual thing, which is look for judo and wrestling clubs.
here is the adress of a judo club in landstuhl that i found, maybe they can help you http://www.sportplus-ev.de/

i dont know anybody from said schools/clubs personally, i just thought it might be easier for me to search for you, so good luck with your training :icon_wink

PM f4nf4n. He's german.

Yeah and I moved to NY to train so I am as helpfull as a second asshole.

I'm german as well. Do have a look at www.luta-livre.de and email Andy to see if there are any schools near you. There are many fine grappling schools in Germany, whether it is BJJ or Luta Livre.

For Berlin: Frank Burczinski of www.jkdberlin.de is legit.

Thanks everyone, took me a bit to get back to a computer. One of these days I will get out of this shithole sandbox.

I'm in the Landstuhl area right now and I've found the same problem, no BJJ, MT or MMA schools in the area. The only thing I've found close is a kickboxing school that also teaches Krav Maga. Thinking of taking classes there because anything is better than nothing and if nothing else it would be good exercise.

I'll check out the Judo link you posted.

Looks like to do any BJJ/MT or MMA training while living around Landstuhl will require a long drive or train ride, which I don't have time to do.

Thanks for the info, finding any info about schools in Germany has been tough. I've found more info on this site in 5 minutes than in 5 hours searching the web.


ok, since nobody tried to help you so far, i 'll give it a try:

as far as i see it, you are many miles away from any bjj/luta livre training in your area.
the nearest should be a luta livre school in ludwigshafen, which should be around 90 minutes by train from landstuhl. the homepage of this school is http://www.optimale-selbstverteidigung.de/

this basically means the for germany usual thing, which is look for judo and wrestling clubs.
here is the adress of a judo club in landstuhl that i found, maybe they can help you http://www.sportplus-ev.de/

i dont know anybody from said schools/clubs personally, i just thought it might be easier for me to search for you, so good luck with your training :icon_wink

Are you at LRMC? That is where I am heading and I am having a hard time getting any kind of info on the area.