Just this past weekend (11 Nov 2006) I attended the Bando Nationals with my son to supprt and watch our MT fighters. Even Jorge Gurgel's Middletown, OH school had MT fighters there.

During the course of the tournament I heard mention of Dr. Maung Gyi numerous times. So, Sunday afternoon I decided to try and learn some more on Dr. Maung Gyi and the American Bando Association. What I found wasn't so much Bullshido on Bando but some pretty disparaging remarks on Maung Gyi's military service claims.

http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies117.htm
http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies33.htm
http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies156.htm
http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies40.htm

Now I don't know Maung Gyi from a hole in the ground and never heard of Bando before attending the tournament and doing an internet search afterwards. I started wondering if fraudulent military service claims would be considered Bullshido by Bullshido.com itself.

Now I just separated from the USAF after 9 years, 9 months of AD. I found it slightly insulting that the American Bando Association would hold it's annual tournament on Veteran's Day when their founder is accused and supposedly proven to have made fraudulent military service claims.

So my questions to the experts here on Bullshido:

Is the American Bando Association Bullshido?

Does anyone have any personal experience with the American Bando Association and Dr. Maung Gyi that could shed further insight on his military service claims?

Thank You
Mike Wills

The American Bano Association itself is probably not Bullshido but they have made a serious lapse of judgment if they continue to publicize, ie support the military claims of their founder.

Secondly Gyi would be considered Bullshido for these claims which are used in advertisements to establish and burnish his credibility. In my limited experience with the POW Network I have found them to be reliable.

I wouldn't say lying about military service in itself is bullshido, but it does set off major alarm bells, liars rarely stick to just the one porky.

It's also very disrespectful to the people who really have served in the armed forces, you don't have to be military to know that.

Its bullshido because he uses it to enhance the credibility of the martial arts he teaches. "When I was fighting with the Gurkas during WWII . . ."

The American Bano Association itself is probably not Bullshido but they have made a serious lapse of judgment if they continue to publicize, ie support the military claims of their founder.

Secondly Gyi would be considered Bullshido for these claims which are used in advertisements to establish and burnish his credibility. In my limited experience with the POW Network I have found them to be reliable.

We got to to see some pretty good kickboxing though. Defintiely worth $10. Even the ladies threw some leather.

The rules as explained to me were No elbow or knee stikes. The only leg kicks were above the knee and only on the outide of the leg (read No innside leg kicks). Back fists and spinning backfists allowed, as well as other kicks besides roundhouses (i.e. front licks, wheel kicks, spiing side kicks, etc.)

So, it was pretty much like American Kickboxing with outside leg-kicks permitted.

Its bullshido because he uses it to enhance the credibility of the martial arts he teaches. "When I was fighting with the Gurkas during WWII . . ."

There too, the American Bando Association was celebrating it's 35th anniversary. Not sure it that was just a gimmick, but apparently they hold their annual national tournament on Veteran's Day every year.

The American Bano Association itself is probably not Bullshido but they have made a serious lapse of judgment if they continue to publicize, ie support the military claims of their founder.

Secondly Gyi would be considered Bullshido for these claims which are used in advertisements to establish and burnish his credibility. In my limited experience with the POW Network I have found them to be reliable.
-This is a good summary.

Its bullshido because he uses it to enhance the credibility of the martial arts he teaches. "When I was fighting with the Gurkas during WWII . . ."Ah my bad, good point.

It seems alot these guys who make up false military claims are into martial arts (or claim to be).

It sort of all follows. Most people grant respect to veterans, particularly those with "war stories." Those who want to believe in the dream of t3h d34dly, will eagerly believe that Sifu/Sensei/Professor was an actual "warrior."

The same type of person who would make up such claims would make up lineage in the martial arts just as quickly. MA lineage is harder to verify. You really cannot claim to have served under "some Colonel" in "some jungle" where you fought "many enemies" with the military.

Unless . . . of course . . . you were "black OPS" and not allowed to mention it . . . which is why, for some reason, you are mentioning it!!

--J.D.

It also seems like Dr. Gyi is held in high regards over at Dog Bros and it's forum...LOL

http://www.dogbrothers.com/wrapper.php?file=testimonials.htm

http://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?action=search2

If you search--"SEARCH FUNCTION NEWBIE!!!"--you will see that this issue with the Dog Brothers exploded about a month ago when someone from the PowNet came on rather like an asshole trying to go after the Dog Brothers because of this.

Fun reading, but the guy was nuts and


Liked to play with Fonts and location.

If you disagreed with him you hate the military.

--J.D.

If his technique is sound, who fucking cares if he claims God gave it to him on stone tablets?

Soundness of technique=What Matters

The rest is insignificant fluff that I couldn't give two shits about.

Bando is good stuff and is starting to make head way into the stream of MA taught in the usofa and other location's by the looks of it.

I believe any of the arts from the region of Indonesia and Thailand and the area of that ilk is pretty good at fighting If we would have done more homework and less fighting I believe we could have heped our nation better then going over there and fighting those people there mind set is much different then ours for sure. Our country was not prepared to go there just look at us now in Iraq a few thousand dead and we are turning to jelly. 100 thousand of them dead and still fighting. Tough people. Same with the people of the Bando, "way" (which is repetitive, sorry) Ban-Do..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bando

Good information.

Regards, Gary

1. Iraq is nowhere near Thailand, geographically or culturally.

2. Hey look 1st world war, millions dead and still fighting. Tough people those Europeans, we could learn alot from them. Oh wait we did, we learned to abhor war and value human life...

Wildwills ---

It has already been established that Dr. Gyi is full of tall tales, mistruths and BS stories. The unfortunate part is that due to these stories he has alienated himself from many excellent martial artists who have since distanced themselves from him. However these same people who have distanced themselvs have enough character and integrity not to come out and publicy bash a man who has made contributions to the martial arts world regardless of his mouth and the words that come out of it. There's nothing to gain from it. He's an old man and if the haters will just hang on a few more years they can all dance on his grave.

:beatdead:

BTW - Using him as a vehicle to attack others via false propositional logic is a waste of time.
If people don't like it, then then they shouldn't train in it, they shouldn't associate with it and move on. Life is too short to hate.

Sam, perhaps an IP address check is in order as well. This is beginning to sound familiar.