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Gabster
11/10/2006 10:38am,
"Kajukenbo leader discriminates against overweight people in the arts!"

Professor John Bishop of Emperado's Kajukenbo and one of his students, Dan Weston have spoken disparagingly on the topic of overweight martial artists on public forums, highly insulting to say the least and very hurtful. They have focused on one very respected senior in a system outside of Kajukenbo but also mentioned others although not by name. This can all be read on this forum under the thread: Tracy Kenpo Master.

The martial arts, besides a system of self defense, is also known to teach character, ethics and a respect and sensitivity toward others. Is this not what you tell parents when they enroll their sons and daughters? or are we just being hypocrits?

A martial arts instructor of the ranking of an 8th degree black belt professor who is a self proclaimed representive of his system, who appears to be the spokeman for it's founder, Adriano D. Emperado, is clearly setting a very poor example for others to follow. What parent would want to enroll their children in a Kajukenbo school after reading this vicious insensitivity and childish elementary school-like behavior displayed by Professor Bishop and his student?

What does Professor Bishop do when a mother or father come to his school with their child who is picked on by bullies because he or she is overweight? Does Mr. Bishop and Mr. Weston make cracks like, you'd better sign a liability waiver in case you kid slips on grease from the cheeseburger he brought to class (the cheesseburger/grease example was taken right from the Bishop/Weston posts on another thread in reference to an 8th degree black belt of another system).

Mr. Weston, is, from what I understand, not only Bishop's #1 son but a school teacher! You read this right, a teacher in our public school systems. No wonder why we have the problems we do in todays' schools with teachers like Weston leading the way. I wonder what Mr. Weston's superiors would think if they read his posts on some of these forums, especially Bullshido.

I can only say this. If this is condoned by Mr. Emperado and the Kajukenbo organization then I say to all parents, please take this into consideration before enrolling your child in a Kajukenbo school! If Mr. Weston is indeed a school teacher as he states here on the west coast, then we, as parents, should find out where he is teaching and make his superiors aware of his conduct which is very unprofessional, immature and hateful for a man who calls himself, 'teacher'.

Very sad day for friends of the arts.

Regards, Gary:bully:

TEA
11/10/2006 10:47am,
That was really funny.

1 - There is a big difference between an overweight student and an overweight instructor, especially an overlerly critcical overweight instructor with delusions of being a bad ass.

2 - Whats with the whole "professor" title for a martial arts instructor? Last time I checked, common usage of the title was for someone with tenure at an academic institution. No one calls the football or track coaches "professor" at colleges or universities.

Rock Ape
11/10/2006 11:46am,
Whats with the whole "professor" title for a martial arts instructor? !! ITS BULLSHIT !!

Iscariot
11/10/2006 12:25pm,
Thanks Dave, I didn't want to name drop.

As far as this instructor goes, he's entirely right to demand this of his instructor grades. Some people use MA as a way to get fit and lose excess weight. It would be hypocritical to advertise your art in this way and then have an overweight instructor teaching a class.

In short, it's his organisation, he's not doing anything illegal.

As far as being a public school teacher goes, it matters not. Teachers are entitled to hold any personal opinions they want provided they retain a sense of professionalism at work. If you have evidence that he discriminates whilst at work please present examples, if not yours is a baseless accusation.

Ke?poFist
11/10/2006 12:51pm,
Gary....STFU. We have 4 threads circulating around the net with every one of them ending with you in shame, and here you come taking comments out of context (actually you didn't even quote the comments...just slinging accusations) only to bring the same debate to this thread where you will again be shamed. Have you no self respect?

Shuma-Gorath
11/10/2006 2:03pm,
2 - Whats with the whole "professor" title for a martial arts instructor? Last time I checked, common usage of the title was for someone with tenure at an academic institution. No one calls the football or track coaches "professor" at colleges or universities.
They're ripping off BJJ, where the word is actually applied properly (in a language-specific and arguably scientific context).

Gabster
11/10/2006 3:54pm,
Kempofist I actually posted to see what others thought and am really not going to post much.:sad10: I am truly hurt by your words KF :sad5:


I have already seen the same ignorant fucks post and the new guy who is probably someone the staff will allow to do that. Hint Hint.:laughing4

You are a demented looking turtle who obviously lost the fight, what do you know. :icon_conf

Gary:qfrog:

LiaoRouxin
11/10/2006 4:10pm,
Kempofist I actually posted to see what others thought and am really not going to post much.:sad10: I am truly hurt by your words KF :sad5:


I have already seen the same ignorant fucks post and the new guy who is probably someone the staff will allow to do that. Hint Hint.:laughing4

You are a demented looking turtle who obviously lost the fight, what do you know. :icon_conf

Gary:qfrog:

Now, I'm not a native english speaker...so could someone clarify WHAT THE **** was just said in this post?

sochin101
11/10/2006 4:12pm,
Now, I'm not a native english speaker...so could someone clarify WHAT THE **** was just said in this post?
Apparently:
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Sam Browning
11/10/2006 4:14pm,
Hi Liao

Gary doesn't make sense. I think our site needs a hamlet idiot for kempo matters, Hannibal is just not appearing in those threads. What do you say Gary?

Uechidude
11/10/2006 4:44pm,
Kempofist I actually posted to see what others thought and am really not going to post much.:sad10: I am truly hurt by your words KF :sad5:


I have already seen the same ignorant fucks post and the new guy who is probably someone the staff will allow to do that. Hint Hint.:laughing4

You are a demented looking turtle who obviously lost the fight, what do you know. :icon_conf

Gary:qfrog:Actually, I think it is a crying shame, when I see little children "Waddling" to the bus, when I go to P/U my daughter. I actually saw a little girl, no more then 9 yrs old 4' and weighs, well over 100 lbs.*btw there are more* Now, would I go and make hurtful remarks to this child? No. I will say "the parents" should get bitch slapped for it though. So, Gary do you think it is ok, for kids to sit on their little arse's... and get to the point where they need a banner saying WIDE LOAD on it ? This is already a major problem in America *Obesity* that is. We blame the food industry, yes they have some blame in the problem. However, more and more people are not out doing hard labor. So when you hit a keyboard all day , then run home to a bag of cheetos, and sit on your ass to watch T.V..play Video games, etc etc..well, you get what you deserve.**btw kids usually follow the parents examples** And, hell no I would not want to train under, or with, some "Hippo" wearing a B.B.. I do not find that to be inspirational, by any means. How in the hell are you going to teach me to kick, when you cant lift your leg off the floor? How about exercise? I dont think it is ok for a instructor, to bark out orders on exercising, when he/she cant curl a *Twinkie* w/o breaking a sweat...No, Gary you live in a dream world...MA is about being fit, and capable. Not, flabby, Immobile, and lazy. If, that hurts your fragile sense of well being..then, heres a quater...call some one that gives a ****.

Gabster
11/10/2006 4:54pm,
Sam,
That was a post to my friend kempofist. :5badair: Do we always have to make sense? He gets it and that is what counts (about that last post of mine).
If I want to make sense why am I here?:owneddanc Looks very much like a Kajukenbo lair.:violent1:

I have read many that make no sense at all and no one says a thing:eusa_danc but when I do it, everyone chimes in.:icon_comp It is truly a conspiricy.:surprised Can't you all see it?:mblah05:


If you want to make sense why are we rehashing all the stuff over and over and seeing the same lies. I remember a very good movie about lies, Gene Hackman is the sheriff and kicks the **** out of the liar only to be killed by the wost of the lot.:5hypnodis

Good movie though.:icon_shak

Gary:angel7:

hoodedmonk
11/10/2006 4:59pm,
HEY GABSTER! EVER THOUGHT ABOUT WRITING AFTER SCHOOL SPECIALS? LOL.

oldman34
11/10/2006 4:59pm,
I dont get it. They should make fun of fatties in MA's. How can you seriously call yourself a MA and not be in some kind of shape? I am not thin...but Im not a fattie fat fatso.

If they make fun of fat kids....tough ****. The kids should lose weight. The parents should see to it that they do. If they make fun of instructors that are fat then so what? How can a MA instructor stand up in front of a class and be a fatass? Its shameful.

You seem like a big crybaby. SO what if they make fun of people? WHat does it matter to you? Are you a fatass? Did they make fun of you? How about your kids? Are they fat?
Maybe a little teasing will do the poor fat darlings a bit of good. They will realize that they are fat and maybe do something about it.

You have already brought **** like this up before...are you going to keep starting threads until someone takes pity on you and agrees with your point?

Well...since you seem to need acceptance...

Those callous motherfuckers!!!! Have they no decency? Picking on the fat kids. Nobody has ever picked on fat kids before. They are stooping to a new low. Take their belts and burn their Gi's!!! Who's with me?


There...do you feel better now?

STFU you stupid cock muncher and go hug a tree somewhere.


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...get the point?

hoodedmonk
11/10/2006 5:04pm,
Gabster how can you preach hard work and discapline and way 350 fuckin pounds?

Newaza
11/10/2006 5:18pm,
I hate fat people too.