From the clip of doom:

Boxers work only straight punches? They eventually start losing their sight? I have never heard that one before. Where did this come from?

The sleep part was precious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdwixkJqG_Q&mode=related&search=

:laughing1

Regardless of my my on-going, constant request of The master Foolss to meet me>>>>
I, in 2001 - when I was able to meet MR - and had visited so many of the sites on the Discovery channel clip - I was sincere in my closing quote on the clip you highlighted, BFM.

I wanted to bring the System back to NYC Corrections..the training Captain, responsable for the course of training worked HARD to try to get this method included. And after 4 meetings with the corporation council reps - the city lawyers - they decided that the liability based law enforcement way..was the way they would go. Hence, the staff would continue to learn crappy, incomplete wrist reversals from Hakko-ryu JJ. Taught out of context, learned even more so.

I was told by the now retired training Capt. - John Monaco - "Rob, 'they' are never gonna let this in. Its more because its russian. Does not look good in court - if an inmate sues. We tried but its never going to happen. The whole special forces thing. When you retire - try to work with the cops. Maybe they will be more open minded'. Capt. Monaco was wrong. Status quo. The NYC lawyers would rather allow an officer to get beaten down by an inmate or a perp - and get paid by state workmans comp. - than take a chance that an inmate/perp gets a chance to sue for millions, due to a broken arm suffered by the officer doing a proper armbar. BJJ, MT, Systema - ALL will never be allowed as a training method. NEVER. Only the most dilluted methods get taught in academy.

Yeah, it sux. Liability based law enforcement is pretty much the standard in NYC-
the book-keeping leger much more important than the safety, even the life of ANY L.E.O....and the victim of crime.

Just a fact, BFM. We are insured for about 250 grand if we die in the line of duty. BUT - if you just punch an attacker in the head - and he gets hurt - and its all proper, the city settles out of court for a half mil. Its not even "your damned if you do, damned if ya dont" - yer just damned, often.

I went to Moscow in 2001, and returned to attempt to try to just slightly re-vamp the syllabus of physical training in NYPD/NYDOC defensive tactics. Got nowhere with it. So, kote gashi is still taught..probably because no officer will ever attempt it. Yeah, defend yourself -- but if the crap you were taught in the academy is not used? Well, put on your good suit in court and justify why you balled up your fist and punched a suspect hard enough to give him a black eye. Oh, sure - he threw the first and second punch - to your head. But why did you not attempt to use the kote gashi move taught in your academy! ???

Your just kinda dammed. Boo hoo, dude. Put an 'H' on it and H-andle it.

Anyway, I hope I answered your question, BFM. If not...we can kick it around further.
OH - BTW - my time with my girlfriend is/was excellent...I am on vacation - shes coming with me to Hawaii soon. Looking up an old friend and will have a great time. Shes the one with the high tech vid camera...and would love to record some footage in Oahu.
Now, if only we could find a subject to record and post...a boy and his samoan dog, for instance. Well, still trying to arrange it. Just 2 weeks to go.

Regardless of my my on-going, constant request of The master Foolss to meet me>>>>
I, in 2001 - when I was able to meet MR - and had visited so many of the sites on the Discovery channel clip - I was sincere in my closing quote on the clip you highlighted, BFM.
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I never got that quote from you actually ... You seemed sincere about what ever you said . I heard something about lives being at risk or some thing .

Can you please try and give me that quote ?

he said if ryabko could just teach him one tenth of his striking knowledge, because people's lives depend on this

he said if ryabko could just teach him one tenth of his striking knowledge, because people's lives depend on this

Maybe Rybako could share with us his russian secret for staying in such phenomenal shape. :surprised

Maybe Rybako could share with us his russian secret for staying in such phenomenal shape. :surprised


I'm thinking it's got something to do with piroshkis...


... lots and lots of piroshkis.



Mmmm .... piroshkis.



http://www.bullshido.net/gallery/data/570/homer_drooling.jpg

I'm thinking it's got something to do with piroshkis...


... lots and lots of piroshkis.



Mmmm .... piroshkis.



http://www.bullshido.net/gallery/data/570/homer_drooling.jpg
Mikhail knows he's not the most beautiful man in the world, nor in the most beautiful shape imaginable. He knows that people on the internet laugh at him. But it's ok. Go get hit by him, and then you will love and repect him, and you can be friends.

Systema; the way not to do.
(*=legal terms used.)

So you are trapped in a room within only fifteen minutes of air left. The room is made of steel, the door is made of steel, it is air tight and the door is locked. You do not have a key, there is no window and the air is getting stale. What do you do? Unlock the door and go outside. Simple answer.

This is a riddle I present to my students. Usually the most simple minded get this easily. What does this have to do with Systema? I will get to that in a moment. A gentleman named Rich Grannon shown here http://www.systemaquestionsanswered.co.uk/ : this video was designed to show that an experienced and trained ‘cage fighter’ found value in Systema. There was only one problem with this. According to my resources Richard Grannon is not a cage fighter. He has never trained for an actual cage fight or trained with an instructor that teaches cage fighting. What Mr. Grannon has stated is that he has studied their techniques but has never seriously trained in any of them. This means nothing to most professional fighters. Studying and doing are two distinct differences. Nowhere in his biography does he mention actually cage fighting or sporting of any record but he talks ignorantly of being an expert.

Mr Grannon in his own words
“And in no way am I criticizing "No Holds Barred" training. Over the years since Ultimate Fighting Championship 1 came out (1991?), I have experimented with some of the movements with training partners and where possible have trained at various schools of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Shootfighting. However I have personally fallen into the real fight "pitfalls" that come from this type of training.”

In the ‘youtube.com’ video he is shown doing several techniques with Paul Genge. His attacks are sloppy, predictable and look outright staged. One thing we should know from most ‘highlight videos’ is that they can lie and that we could pick apart a video all day. The important thing to state here is that Richard Grannon, at least in my opinion, is not a reliable recommendation as a ‘cage fighter’. What he represents is himself and nothing more. He could not give a reasonable explanation on why techniques did work which only went to show me that Mr. Grannon *sucks ass as a martial arts expert. Richard Grannon is nothing more than a *bullshit artist.

On the other hand I offered to step up and analyze the Systema techniques as a professional fighter and instructor. I have experience in personal security, bar security, and a few street skirmishes here and there. Members HanktheTank, Kobayashi, and Csinca have offered their resources in finding truths in Systema training. I grouped together 4 instructors spanning several disciplines to dissect the techniques shown. The instructions to these experts were to make the techniques work, understand the techniques, and break down the exercises as best we could in the short amount of time. These instructors represent Jeet Kune Do, Silat, MMA, Aikijitsu, Kali, Wing Chun, Muay Thai, SAMBO, BJJ, Taekwondo, Kenjitsu and Kung-fu; two of the instructors have fought and taught people for dog brother gatherings. We asked for one systema instructor to come and show us what systema was all about but after initial contact the instructor never returned our follow up emails. No other instructor volunteered.

The simple truth, systema is bullshit. There is no other way around it the various exercises and drills they do are nothing but a waste of time. We found no value in what they were saying or attempting to teach. The knife fighting should be dubbed, ‘how to get stabbed a lot’ or ‘how not to defend yourself against a knife’. On their own literature they state things such as:

‘Hitting somebody with your chest so hard that they fall over’ -very silly.

‘Transferring the impact of a blow right out of your body onto another person’ –main comment, who hits like that?

‘Small, subtle hits so powerful that even the bystanders feel them’ –we never got this one to work.

‘Light punches that reach the internal organs, bypassing the muscles’ – it’s called a sucker punch.

‘Phenomenal use of breathing and psychology to dispel direct blows’ – kia!

‘Unbelievable strikes that remove stress, tension, fear, make people stronger and actually heal them!” – Re read this slowly it isn’t a typo.

‘…the secrets of what makes them so devastating and simple to apply’ -we gave these techniques to advanced students. They had three days to figure them out. None of them did. So much for simple.

I would rather not go into all the techniques we went through. This is not to say none of it would work. The general consensus was why bother. All the instructors present pride themselves in gathering the most mundane of techniques, who knows how useful these techniques would be in the future, there was nothing of true value that we could find in the training methods. Now some of their strategies were interesting but what was more interesting was how Vladimir Vasiliev broke his own training theory such as relax the arms below the waist and brought them up in a guard position during the exercise. Again it may seem like I’m nit picking but I’m not. The more video we watched the worse it got.

So is systema complete rubbish? No, it is not. Systema practitioners still train hard. They learn grappling they do spar. One of the instructors actually likes their shovel techniques. They do learn valid techniques that have actually been proven. None of these techniques that I have learned, have anything to do with the wavy, internal, breathing ***** we found on the videos. As I hinted at the beginning of my report sometimes the simplest answers tend to be the best. Most of those no touch knockdowns you have seen are actually just exercises in avoidance and movement. Most of those light touches where a person gets knocked off their feet is a student being sucker punched, or reacting according to a preconditioned response, like aikidoka getting airborne from a simple wrist lock.

I have sparred two systema practitioners in my life time. Both of whom hurt themselves sparring, and after watching these videos I now know why. While I developed a huge headache, one of my instructors rolled around laughing while my students stood around with gapping mouths.


Just a reminder I would hate for this to be overlooked by some silly noob not bothering to read the whole thread .

Mikhail knows he's not the most beautiful man in the world, nor in the most beautiful shape imaginable. He knows that people on the internet laugh at him. But it's ok. Go get hit by him, and then you will love and repect him, and you can be friends.


So, basically, you are saying that if he wasn't so deadly, he'd have to be in better shape, right?

http://www.bullshido.net/gallery/data/570/homer_worrythink.gif

So, basically, you are saying that if he wasn't so deadly, he'd have to be in better shape, right?

http://www.bullshido.net/gallery/data/570/homer_worrythink.gif


No, I'm saying that a man can be powerful and skilled without having a rippling six pack. And I'm assuring you that if you had the chance to train with Ryabko you would find that to be the case.

No, I'm saying that a man can be powerful and skilled without having a rippling six pack. And I'm assuring you that if you had the chance to train with Ryabko you would find that to be the case.


http://www.bullshido.net/gallery/data/500/medium/Humungous.jpg

No, I'm saying that a man can be powerful and skilled without having a rippling six pack. And I'm assuring you that if you had the chance to train with Ryabko you would find that to be the case.


Do you think it might be possible his power and skill come from piroshkis?


Mmmm .... piroshkis.



http://www.bullshido.net/gallery/data/570/homer_drooling.jpg

Do you think it might be possible his power and skill come from piroshkis?


Mmmm .... piroshkis.



http://www.bullshido.net/gallery/data/570/homer_drooling.jpg
Almost anything is possible.

Almost anything is possible.

Do you think it is possible that, if he wasn't so deadly, he'd have to be in better shape?

http://www.bullshido.net/gallery/data/570/homer_worrythink.gif

Well, if one were not deadly-- then, why would one have to concern oneself with being in shape? Do you mean, that, should he not be a master of martial arts, he would then perhaps have to be in better shape, say for example, with a rippling six pack that glistens in the sunshine so as to pursue his career as an underwear model, or an olympic trampoline gymnast? If so, then I concede that it is feasible.