ADDED BY WHITESHARK: This is a great example of how anyone can get out on the mat and put some of what they are learning to the test. If more Newbs posted threads like this Bullshido would be a friendlier place.
You may not agree with their exact technique but these guys deserve props for getting out of their comfort zone and testing stuff on their own.
Just two clips of us sparring today. We were wrapping up the TKD club were in @ 4 and I had intended to tape more but I completely forgot I brought the camera so we just had a few short rounds, only two of which were filmed thanks to our expert cameraman. Anyway I'm the short red belt in the first clip, my bro is the one in both clips he's just having a laugh though, and the other guy in clip 2 is frankie who was in the point sparring clip (he's the guy who upended the other guy in that video). Anyway, enjoy and critique!!
I would have embeded them but having two videos on the one page might not be very good.
WhiteShark
6/21/2006 2:21pm,
Very nice, why is it so hard for people to do this?
Just that much sparring work with realistic speed and some consequinces makes the crap really apparent.
So your brother is the one in black pants in both videos?
Torakaka
6/21/2006 2:27pm,
Sparring without punches to the face always looks so silly to me (no offense)
Odacon
6/21/2006 2:33pm,
Sparring without punches to the face always looks so silly to me (no offense)
None taken, But semi contact continuous sparring like this is easier to sell to other dojos. My overall goal is to have a catagory for this kind of sparring in local point contact competions. Headgear and face punching will hopefully come later if I can pull this off.
babo78
6/21/2006 2:40pm,
Was one of sparring rule, No strikes to head? Because no kicks or punches were thrown to head and look like as a result, hands weren't really 'up' to cover up head.
BSDaemon
6/21/2006 2:47pm,
None taken, But semi contact continuous sparring like this is easier to sell to other dojos. My overall goal is to have a catagory for this kind of sparring in local point contact competions. Headgear and face punching will hopefully come later if I can pull this off.
I would hardly call that continuous sparring considering you stop as soon as one guy falls on the ground.
Torakaka
6/21/2006 2:51pm,
I would hardly call that continuous sparring considering you stop as soon as one guy falls on the ground.
so you wouldn't call kickboxing "continuous" sparring?
Odacon
6/21/2006 2:56pm,
Was one of sparring rule, No strikes to head? Because no kicks or punches were thrown to head and look like as a result, hands weren't really 'up' to cover up head.
These are the legal striking areas based on the rules we're working on:
The legal striking areas are as follows:
Kicks to the Head, Body, Thighs, Legs(sweeps)
Punches to the Body
Knees to the Body
Pretty standard Knockdown karate rules. I had a bunch of fights that way. Kyokushin rules are similar.
BSDaemon
6/21/2006 3:11pm,
To be a douchbage.... If it stops, technically it's not continuous. If I am kickboxing and take someone down or knock them down I at least establish a dominant position before stopping. Smell blood the fights not over until you've gone in for the kill. But then again I'm coming from a MMA mindset. I think kickboxing rules with the exception of san shou are silly.
Anyhow... forget about me.... Props for hitting eachother and getting it on film.
Oh just one one moer thing... some of you need to keep your motherfucking hands up... That no head shot sparring is giving you bad habits.
Shaolinz
6/21/2006 6:11pm,
Not bad. Not awesome but definitely not bad at all. It seemed like if someone punched their punchs got through about 80% of the time. I'd probably work on covering up (I know its not MT but I can't help it)
Oh just one one moer thing... some of you need to keep your motherfucking hands up... That no head shot sparring is giving you bad habits.
I agree with this 100% even if its point sparring atleast keep your hands at shoulder level, if not head level, the whole time. However, as was said before awesome job actually sparring and filming it. Even better, you posted it ;)
Seraphim
6/21/2006 9:03pm,
Odacon,
Props for putting a video up. Your more man then most on bullshido.
1. I've sparred under those rules before, minus the knees to the body. That idea of kneeing people just rocks. How do you escape the mashed ribs? It's obvious you have the real iron shirt.
2. Not punching people in the face might let a bad habit creep in. Some of the time it looked like you were coming at the guy with your arms low and flailing. (I expect you were red eyed, and drooling. Ready for blood. Which is awesome in itself). The answer to such is a stiff jab or hook. Which is not an issue its not allowed. So I guess its a moot point.
3. I liked the level of contact.
In closing. Mad props. I'll have your babies!!!!:blob9:
Odacon
6/22/2006 6:58am,
1. I've sparred under those rules before, minus the knees to the body. That idea of kneeing people just rocks. How do you escape the mashed ribs? It's obvious you have the real iron shirt.
Knees are a recent addition to our sparring and so far there's been zero injuries *touches wood*, in one of the rounds not taped myself and Frankie exchanged a good few knees and knocked the wind out of each other, but nothing else. If anything, it at least shows you can spar with some degree of contact and not have to call a fleet of ambulances which is the mantra of the point sparrer. Also I thought I did a fair job of keeping my hands at shoulder level, my brother was just messing around grabbing our legs and such and I know it wouldn't hurt Frankie to keep his hands up a little higher but he's a good scapper and works hard to improve. The other two guys, Ciaran and Joe weren't taped but they keep their hands up when their sparring. I'll try and get another few videos the next time we spar but thanks for the replies and advice.
Jaric
6/22/2006 10:43am,
The only thing I dont like is that in the second movie, one guy keeps one hand up and the other hand chambered. Although if you really hate your face then I say keep your hands that way...
Emevas
6/23/2006 3:03pm,
You guys try to block kicks with your hands. This is gonna be a bad habit because
1: When you start using more contact, you can serious screw up your hands/arms
2: It sets you up for headshots.
Respectable level of contact, good movement. Keep it up. Headshots in the future.
Draven
7/06/2006 11:42am,
To be a douchbage.... If it stops, technically it's not continuous. If I am kickboxing and take someone down or knock them down I at least establish a dominant position before stopping. Smell blood the fights not over until you've gone in for the kill. But then again I'm coming from a MMA mindset. I think kickboxing rules with the exception of san shou are silly.
Does that also mean BJJ is silly because you are not allowed to punch the other guy in the face while rolling? One might also make an arguement that MMA isnīt complete because you are not allowed to bite, use groin strikes etc. in it. These are all sports, and they have rules, and are good in their own way.
Oh, and Odacon, tell your brother to stop blocking leg kicks with his hands. That **** will get him KOd in a real fight.
