Not sure what this is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5dAUfTQjSw&search=Mekugi

x-block demo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrTjAKE01f0
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrTjAKE01f0)

That's Jigen Ryu kenjutsu... a notoriously "hard" style of kenjutsu. They have one hoss of a bokutou as well.

If there were a Jigen Ryu dojo around me, I would *be* there. Let's put it that way.

The second clip is muto dori from the Yagyu Shingan ryu of jujutsu, another recognized koryu. Nothing remiss there.

Lmfao.. that was great!

god invented kendo to remind karateka about the difference between a kiai and just screaming like a ninny.

guess he got the idea from the kenjutsu guys.

That's Jigen Ryu kenjutsu... a notoriously "hard" style of kenjutsu. They have one hoss of a bokutou as well.

If there were a Jigen Ryu dojo around me, I would *be* there. Let's put it that way.

The second clip is muto dori from the Yagyu Shingan ryu of jujutsu, another recognized koryu. Nothing remiss there.

What he said.

I tried to look at the first clip in all seriousness, but the second dude in the row... I mean, ****, he needs to learn how scream. His screaming reminded me of one of my sisters when she was 12. He needs to develop some deep bass or something :tongue6:

What he said.


I've watched this quasi-suburi thing of the Jigen Ryu several times now, and all I can think about is how goddamn hard on the hands that must be. If one is using a wooden bokken with naught more for a grip than bare, polished hardwood, imagine the vibrations that come from repeatedly performing shomen-uchi onto a target which may or may not yield, with that much force. Ow.

Then again, I have a vision of some Jigen Ryu samurai hacking away at his opponent on the battlefield. I wonder if the toushi of ancient Japan ever saw a samurai with a Jigen mon walking up the street and said, "Yes! The idiot broke his sword again! I'm going to be rich!"

I wonder if the toushi of ancient Japan ever saw a samurai with a Jigen mon walking up the street and said, "Yes! The idiot broke his sword again! I'm going to be rich!"

BWHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA, Probably. I always wonder if the Jigen Ryu used different katana cause normal katana would seem to brake under those conditions.

I've always been taught that the katana was a sidearm and the modern forms of kenjutsu were maily products of the Tokugawa era, where there was much less wearing of armor and more dueling.

The typical katana would chip and bend if struck against armor, even the supposedly "big cutters" of the 14th and 15th centuries, like my shobu. I know I'd never use it on anything harder than green bamboo.

That first one is one of the funniest things I've ever seen! What the hell was itg?

The side caption said it was to build up strength and spirit whilst practicing proper cuts. Proper cuts? I'm no swordsman... but wasnt that more "Woman with rolling pin experiencing massive PMS" than "Proper cutting"???

I've always been taught that the katana was a sidearm and the modern forms of kenjutsu were maily products of the Tokugawa era, where there was much less wearing of armor and more dueling.

The typical katana would chip and bend if struck against armor, even the supposedly "big cutters" of the 14th and 15th centuries, like my shobu. I know I'd never use it on anything harder than green bamboo.


I learned the same thing. The weapon of choice Pre Tokugawa was the Yari.

I am not sure what year Jigen Ryu was created. But what you said makes sense.

That first one is one of the funniest things I've ever seen! What the hell was itg?

The side caption said it was to build up strength and spirit whilst practicing proper cuts. Proper cuts? I'm no swordsman... but wasnt that more "Woman with rolling pin experiencing massive PMS" than "Proper cutting"???

Pick up a bokken, go to Japan and challenge them. Then when you get out of the hospital tell us what you think.

that's not going to prove a damn thing about cutting technique - just that they know how to beat the **** out of him with a bokken. they've clearly got their bludgeoning skills down.

which is infinitely more useful than sword work, anyway.

that's not going to prove a damn thing about cutting technique - just that they know how to beat the **** out of him with a bokken. they've clearly got their bludgeoning skills down.

which is infinitely more useful than sword work, anyway.


If I remember I story of Musahi, that he couldn't cut your down, he just beat the hell out of you with a sword. So there are merits of just beating the **** out of someone with a razor sharp piece of metal.

They had proper cutting technique. If I can be allowed to speculate, they probably don't start out with suburi like that. They probably train in a much more restrained fashioned to learn the mechanics, and this type of training is added at a later date.

The mechanics of using the Japanese sword are such that a ferocious attack like that might be effective, if not at killing your opponent then forcing him to use his sword to parry or block the strikes. The Japanese sword cannot stand up to much edge-to-edge contact because of the way it is forged.

Hi,

Had to watch the videos a few times until I realized those fighters were not simple clowns.
Now, I wonder, apart from making one strong and hard, what are the technical aspects of this Jigen Ryu?

Saw a more technique-focused video on youtube, but with the performers there being Westerners, I am not sure it was a proper representation.

Thanks,

Rafe