i think these things are more important in terms of controlling the duration of a fight.

1)defensive counter fighter-this strategy waits for the opponent's attack in order to neutralize it, and counter to whatever he leaves open with his attack.
2)equivalent skill- the fighters counter each other's manoevers repeatly, this goes on until somebody fucks up.
3)trying to get a particular 'move', like a favorite finisher. tends to make you miss all kinds of opportunities because you are set on your 'signature' tech.
4)fear- being scared of your opponent or intimidated in any fashion will slow you down. i think this applies more to a competition match. in a real fight, fear can make you move much faster than you normally would. you wont necessarily win because you are scared, but you will be faster(i think that is a different issue). but in a competitive match, fear will delay your offense, as you look for or try to create openings.

just a few ideas.

peace.

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kuntao (just a quick reply)...

me: "Apparently the throws are quick and dirty - effective but in some of the moves, the opponent has his/her limbs tied up so they can't break-fall properly."

you: "that's because they are not 'sport' technique. those are 'real' throws. of what use is a throw that is easily nullified by a simple breakfall? "

I agree but real throws can be trained with breakfalls too - lots of judo throws involve the nage holding onto uke's arm to help them land properly. In a real fight, nage could just let uke fall on his/her head or back.

Interestingly, a lot of aikido throws are made more difficult to safely land from when you keep hold of Ukes arm.
Its important to know when to keep hold and when to let go.

"I agree but real throws can be trained with breakfalls too - lots of judo throws involve the nage holding onto uke's arm to help them land properly. In a real fight, nage could just let uke fall on his/her head or back."

sure, i was just trying to make the distinticion between certain 'categories' or 'methods' of throwing.

judo is considered 'safe throwing'. it was modified for safety, and rightly so.

with the addition of certain factors, throws can become much more devatstating. but these throws are difficult to train. judo and similar arts are great for basic practice throw.


sport/civil throws usually allow some type of ukemi. they dont 'have' to, but they do for training purposes. take osotogari for example, adding a waist twist enables you to drop the opponent on your knee as he falls.(spine or neck) judoka/jujutsuka often train to drop opponents directly in front of their shin. this is for the knee drop interruption. how often they say this,or reveal this tactic, i dont know.


peace.

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