Hang on, so you are saying that it's more important that a karateka in Holland can understand a karateka in Puru because they both call a kiba dachi a kiba dachi, yet it's not so important that people within the same country understand what the hell the instructor is saying cos he's using pigeon Japanese. Talk about silly excuses for LARPing guys.

............. yet it's not so important that people within the same country understand what the hell the instructor is saying cos he's using pigeon Japanese. Talk about silly excuses for LARPing guys.At this point lady's and gentlemen he seems to become belligerent and irrational.

I think you mean what being taught in CMA"s go back and re-read Is it Fake’s last 3 comments.

The Japanese understand each other quite well. A block is a block and a kick and so on. It’s just that in Japan the language is just more refined.What I use is simple Japanese that the Japanese understand .It’s just less fancy I guess.

You are so ingrained with silliness. You want to talk in pigeon Papanese in you "Dojo" (club to non-LARPing people) so you make up silly excuses. You can't call it "round kick" because that would shatter your pretence of being Japanese. You've definately got simulated death by simulated lightningbolts coming your way if The Movement gets in power!

No!I would call it a mawashi-geri and I would call it a circular-kick.And since I in a French speaking city I would pronounce it coup-de pied circulaire.You see how I am able to jump from language to language like that.

Let me ask you something Kickcatcher.If I were to start BJJ.And say after a few years I had an interest in going one day to Brazil and train with the Gracis or machados.Would that make me a LARPer?

And the same goes if I started training Muay-Thai.Would that make me a Martial art LARPer if i were to start learning Thai?

By all means study Brazilian or Thai, but go to evening classes to do it. You don't go to karate for the purpose of learning Japanese do you?

It's simple - Japanese is the technical language of budo. Top Japanese instructors travel the world giving seminars - you don't honestly expect them to learn a different set of terminology for every country they visit, do you? Everyone learns the same set of terms, it's not that difficult.

Also for advanced concepts (of which kickcatcher remains blissfully unaware, I'm sure), one Japanese word replaces paragraphs of explanation.

Bloody hell, the LARPists are in revolt and we haven't even achieved world domination yet. We will stop this needless titles and language within martial arts if we come to power!

Hang on, so you are saying that it's more important that a karateka in Holland can understand a karateka in Puru because they both call a kiba dachi a kiba dachi, yet it's not so important that people within the same country understand what the hell the instructor is saying cos he's using pigeon Japanese. Talk about silly excuses for LARPing guys.

Not entirely true. The term 'sensei' does not 100% equate to 'teacher' and has more meaning(s). This is often true of asian languages in general -- as was said before, sometimes one word or phrase can have many layers of meaning -- something that simply doesn't translate 100%.

An interesting example:

My Arnis teacher, who is Filipino, noted that there wasn't any Tagalog equivalent to the Japanese word kiai (kiyup in TKD). If he wanted to use the word -- even in a discussion with another Filipino -- he would use the Japanese/Korean equivalent.

As was said -- learning the language of the culture from which an art originated provides a consistent basis for terminology. Here's a perfect example -- "Brazilian" Jiu Jitsu. Why call it Jiu-Jitsu? Is it it truly Brazilian? Shouldn't it be "Brazilian Grappling" or "Brazilian <insert Brazilian word here>" ?

Personally, I vote we get rid of all the "Brazilian" Jiu-Jitsu bullshit. Jiu-Jitsu is Japanese. If I recall correctly even in Brazil BJJ ultimately began with a Japanese fighter (Maeda) who had emigrated there. So why is it now "Brazilian" ? :confused:

-daGorilla

By all means study Brazilian or Thai, but go to evening classes to do it. You don't go to karate for the purpose of learning Japanese do you?
By your definition using the terms makes me a LARPer.YES OR NO?And I want you to acknowledge it.

Using Japanese terminology, wearing gis, calling your instructor exotic terms like "Sensei" instead of "George" all because it's part of krotty's identity that seperates it from say kickboxing, is silly. It may be that you are LARPing, yes.

Not wanting to start a flame war, but do you BJJ types realize how fucking gay the term "Aliveness" sounds? It sounds all "New Agey".

and if we are doing away with funny outfits then grapplers and MMA that use them must lose the gay asses looking speedo short shorts that look like 1950s swim suits.

One patch on a uniform only.

Belts are to hold up pants. Or hold jacket shut.

No more shaved heads. Many "baby faced" young guys look like Casper the friendly ghost!

Only two tatoos allowed, and they may not be below the waist or above the shoulders.

Men must wear tatoos where men wear them:tongue2:

Finally.So by your definition.A guy like Aesopian who uses portuguese terms in his BJJ thread is a larper.

If I should start BJJ and start learning the terms that the Gracies named for their techniques,that would make me a LARPer:Maetro,Omoplata and whatever....

If I start doing MT from a respected Thai instructor(sorry I have no idea what word for instructor is)and I chose to acknowled my respect for him by refering through the Thai terms and whatnot.That makes me LARPer.

Or is it maybe because the art is now far removed from Japan that it us no longer

Finally.So by your definition.A guy like Aesopian who uses portuguese terms in his BJJ thread is a larper.


I'm sure Aesopian can speak for himself in this matter. However, I have a sneaking suspicion that if you did call him a LARPer for this very reason, he would laugh, shrug his shoulders, say to himself "Yeah, sure, why not?", then think of something to post which would prove once again why he has that "Best Poster Ever" title.





Hey, lets add another rule that state anyone thinking grappling is gay has to attend the beginner's clinic at this wrestling club: http://www.metrowrestling.org

If Aeso uses portugese terms because he thinks he's Brazilian then yes that would make him a LARPer. But if he just uses them because they are the norm currently but embraces the new way of commonsensical language use when The Movement comes to power then he will be spared the lightningbolts.

I totally need to buy hakama and wear them to MMA one day.

That'd make for an awesome video.

Oh!So I use mae-geri ,I'm a larper

But someone who does BJJ because it's hot **** right now.Knows the terms that the Gracies created is not a LArper.

Ok I understand you now.You're full of **** and maybe have a prejudice against anything Japanese.