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Jitsuman
5/08/2006 12:38am,
Well,

I noticed that the "MAP gives crappy self defense advice" thread turned into a mocking of their recently filmed "MAP meet" (Kind of like a 'throwdown' for fat incompetent pussies)

I figure this could be the thread to critique their training methods, skill-sets, physical attributes, Etc.
Personal insults are more than welcome.

Added bonus for those who can pick out specific techniques that stink of bullshit.

Here I'll start:

At about 3.5 minutes into the video, some imbecile is teaching a cross choke from under the freaking mount. Anyone with more than 5 minutes of actual grappling training should know how sad and pathetic that is. Even worse was that there was no one of remote skill at this so called martial arts meet, to point out an error so obvious.

Here's a link to the google video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6302824619243877390&q=MAP+meet

Enjoy!

Moleculo
5/08/2006 12:41am,
I'm getting this:

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Jitsuman
5/08/2006 12:43am,
try again, I fixed that problem.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

It is Fake
5/08/2006 12:51am,
I had to stop.

The standing rear choke is wrong on so many levels.

I used to teach people how to defeat the nut smash arm break BS. I actually got in trouble for modifying the technique.

Camus
5/08/2006 1:06am,
egoboosting madness

Moleculo
5/08/2006 1:15am,
It's actually much worse than I had imagined it could be.

I could almost smell the chi.

sidran
5/08/2006 1:17am,
Wow, that was it? It was very bad. Lots of drills and crappy techniques, but NO sparring. I would have been bored out of my mind. You would have thought there'd be at least someone sparring there, but then again it's MAP.

Camus
5/08/2006 1:22am,
The amazing thing is that, with so many people, you'd expect at least one person with a shred of knowledge to be in attendence and speak up or something. I guess it makes you kinda wonder about their demographics until you remember that the vast majority of us here at bullshido are pretty wussy in person even if we show up and hit each other. So, applying that to a site that allows larping as an integral part of their forum, as opposed to talking badass like we do here, I'm personally surprised that they weren't any more pussified.

Jitsuman
5/08/2006 1:24am,
another bit of funny truth I've discovered is that apparently (I assume) MAP itself is so humiliated by the video, that they only offer it to their supporting members (idea stolen from bullshido, of course)

Feel free to post the video on one of the free sections of their site, I'm curious what they have to say about their suck-ass-ness.

pariah
5/08/2006 1:32am,
Why is everyone so fat and out of shape?

And why are there so many nerdy looking fat guys with long pony tails?

What the **** is that thing they're doing where they lock their arms together and roll them around? And why are they hitting sticks together like that?

God, I can't watch anymore of this. I'm not even a martial artist but I'm pretty sure based on physical strength alone I could beat the **** out of over half these people. And I'm not even very strong.

JohnnyCache
5/08/2006 1:39am,
1. It's map
2. It's map
3. Chi sao/push hands (a CMA excercise)
4. That would be funny

sidran
5/08/2006 1:41am,
If any of you are interested in seeing their comments on the event and whatnot, this is their thread on it:
http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44103&page=1&pp=15

meng_mao
5/08/2006 2:09am,
I thought MAP would be all larpers, but there seem to be a few MTers in there.

JKing
5/08/2006 2:25am,
At a number of points in this movie I realized "wow, if you took away the sound and heck... all context as to what the event was I bet it would be mistaken for a slow dance class

GIJoe6186
5/08/2006 2:32am,
So fucking gay. I cant beleive I used love that site. Then I realized I can't do a kata on someone. Oh no the memories are coming back! Larpers... AHHHHHH!!

eyebeams
5/08/2006 3:36am,
3. Chi sao/push hands (a CMA excercise)


I have no idea what the hell that was, but it wasn't push hands. Actually, a lot of it looked like it was trying to be exercises from different arts and failing, from suburi to FMA. It's all in there, not quite being what it was originally supposed to be.

There are some grapplers there, working in the background. The thing is, I'm willing to cut some slack on a lot of things, but not everything at the same time. I've known chubby people (and while I'm not at the level of some of those guys, I've got a spare tire myself) who were quick and strong and people who looked sloppy but could get a shot in. But chub *and* sloppiness *and* lack of coordination, together, means that, methodology-wise, something went wrong for a whole bunch of people. They deserve better.