http://springfield-armory.primediaoutdoors.com/SPstory11.html

They did everything GLOCK did for their torture test, replicated it to ta tee...

AFTER THEY PUT 17,500 rounds through it first!

Fucking awesome read, why the XD's are making up ground on the GLOCKS.

What's the monetary damage on that thing compared with my beloved Glock? If SA is smart they'll undercut the competition. That thing is so Glocky that a Glock vs. SA lawsuit wouldn't surprise me.

Or a Glock vs. SA firefight...

XD's are cheaper I thought.

XD's are cheaper, and there are way more differences between GLOCKS and XD's. Alot.

Such as?

An XD vs. Glock comparo would be awesome.

http://springfield-armory.primediaoutdoors.com/SPstory11.html

They did everything GLOCK did for their torture test, replicated it to ta tee...

AFTER THEY PUT 17,500 rounds through it first!

How many rounds are guns supposed to last for?

An XD vs. Glock comparo would be awesome.
Okay, how do I get to where you're at?

Not an XD expert, just off the top of my head:

--The striker system is slightly different.
--The XD has a grip safety along the lines of the 1911 pattern. It won't go bang unless the grip safety on the backstrap is being pressed into the grip (usually this means that if you snag the trigger on something without first acquiring a firing grip, it won't go bang.)
--Ergonomics of the 9mm version are very different from the Glock--reminded me more of a Hi-Power or a CZ-75 than anything. I've heard the .45 feels chunky compared to the 9mm/.40 XD, but that's to be expected. The question is, how does it feel compared to my Glock 30? I suspect it will be more comfortable for me.
--If I recall correctly, the XD's don't just resemble SIG slides cosmetically--they accept sights designed for the SIG models.


The 9mm XD's can accept Beretta 92 magazines, which is not really an advantage anymore but did two nice things when they were first introduced:

1. Most new guns have a long period where all the aftermarket manufacturers kind of feel out the interest--are people going to buy these things or not?
That means it takes awhile before people offer sights, leather, etc. The XD didn't have that problem because it could use sights and hi-cap mags already on the market.

2. At the time, the "Assault Weapons Ban" was still in effect, so it would have been illegal to manufacture new full-capacity magazines for the XD. The ban did allow citizens to own and use magazines made before the ban, however, so if you didn't want to be stuck with 10-round cripples, you could make a simple modification to Beretta full-caps and have as many as you want. I believe the Beretta mags were even cheaper than Glock pre-ban full-caps (which were ridiculously expensive back then--a standard 9mm full-cap Glock mag worth maybe $10-$30 went for $130 for a long time, and people paid it.)

Even now, this is a nice feature, because although Springfield or the Croatians are now allowed to make as many new civilian-legal full-caps as they want, it's nice to know that if they have production problems or stop producing the pistol, the mags will still be around.


If there were going to be a Glock lawsuit, you'd have seen it by now. The XD is no longer a new weapon. It was introduced by the Croatian company that created it in 2000 or so (I think) at least in the U.S. They were called HS Arms and the pistol was then called the "HS2000." At that time they were breaking in by selling the 9mm version for $200, and I did not purchase it because I am stupid. When Springfield became the U.S. distributor and put their name on it, the price went up, but a lot of Americans felt better with Springfield and their warranty in the game.



I'm thinking very seriously of trying to trade my Glock 30 for one of these. I don't really have to have something as small as the 30 most of the time, and if the XD feels as good as my SIG. . . .

Okay, how do I get to where you're at?

You're just up the proverbial street. Come over for the KC Throwdown.

OH. My. God. I want one.

The Ice Test. We filled a tub with water, dropped in the XD with a magazine and put it in the freezer for a week. Breaking it free by dropping the "gunsicle" onto concrete, we let it thaw out on the way to the Oak Tree Gun Club, our favorite outdoor handgun range. Upon arrival, we inserted a fresh magazine into the XD and fired. We fired about 150 rounds before wiping it down and lubricating it. Result: zero malfunctions.

The Dirt Test. Following the lead of the Glock tests, the XD was "caked, covered and buried alive in soils of varying consistencies." We used everything from dust and ash to moist dirt and sand. We fired 100 rounds after subjecting the XD to each of the five kinds of dirt, for a total of 500 rounds. Predictably, sand proved the most challenging to its mechanism. After burying the gun in sand, then stepping on it to grind it in, we took it out to shoot. The slide cycled noticeably slower, but the gun never jammed. Result: zero malfunctions.

The Mud Test. The XD was covered with thick, gritty mud. After a quick shaking off, it was fired 100 times. Mud went everywhere from the recoil, mostly on the shooters, some on bystanders--it was amazing how much sprayed off the gun. Still, the gun kept working. Result: zero malfunctions.

The Water Test. Fully loaded, the XD was left completely submerged, removed from the water and fired. This was repeated 10 times, firing 10 rounds each for a total of 100 rounds. Result: zero malfunctions.

The Chemical Degreaser Test. Using GunScrubber, all lubricant was removed from the firearm. After making sure there wasn't any lubricant remaining on the firearm, the gun was fired. Glock's test fired 100 rounds. We fired 150. Result: zero malfunctions.

The Tire Test. We placed the XD on a gravel surface, then had shooting champion Mike Dalton drive his Toyota Tundra repeatedly over it, then park on the weapon. We then retrieved and fired it 100 times. Result: zero malfunctions.

http://springfield-armory.primediaoutdoors.com/images/SPhg_story11E_300.jpg

The XD does fucking rock. My latest buy was an XD-.45. Shoots better than just about any other sidearm I've ever used, and I've hardly practiced with it.

I'm really thiking hard on the .45, but I'm wondering how big of a print will it have if I carry? The 3 inch .40 I have now leaves none.

I'm really thiking hard on the .45, but I'm wondering how big of a print will it have if I carry? The 3 inch .40 I have now leaves none.

I'm not really sure what you're referring to in regards to 'print', but if it helps out, my XD has a 4 inch barrel. Shouldn't be too much different.

Just for point of interest, what I find rather cool about the XD .45 is that, while it fires the .45 GAP cartridge, it still has the same ballistic performance overall as the .45 ACP cartridge, but it's still a shorter cartridge giving the pistol a similar feel to a Glock .40 cal, IMO.

I'm not really sure what you're referring to in regards to 'print', but if it helps out, my XD has a 4 inch barrel. Shouldn't be too much different.

Just for point of interest, what I find rather cool about the XD .45 is that, while it fires the .45 GAP cartridge, it still has the same ballistic performance overall as the .45 ACP cartridge, but it's still a shorter cartridge giving the pistol a similar feel to a Glock .40 cal, IMO.

Ahhh, sorry, you don't have many civvies carrying concealed up there, legally anyways. :)

Print is the term they use when the outline of a firearm shows through clothing.

Ahhh, sorry, you don't have many civvies carrying concealed up there, legally anyways. :)

Print is the term they use when the outline of a firearm shows through clothing.

Like the "conceal" rating for firearms in Shadowrun? :icon_chee (nerd glory)

Pheonix,
I was reading an article in a magazine a couple of weeks ago saying that they were coming out with a .45 ACP version of the XD. I think they were saying that they were able to make some modifications without really making the thing too bulky, but it was all in shooter-speak and I didn't understand what parts had to be scaled up (plus saying something is .0073 inches wider is hard for me to picture, much less weigh the pros and cons of going with the ACP version).