i'm pretty sure that lifting weights was pretty taboo for boxers until relatively recently. even now few of them do it.

Carbon, not everybody in the world is fucking stupid, you know that right? There are people that use nice long words in everyday conversation. If you seriously don't get that, well, maybe you should see if you can do retard-fu with one hand.

I do believe you have a strong mother, though. As soon as you said that I thought, "That explains so much"

and I heard in the back of my head, "NOORMAAAAAN"

I don't give a **** if you use long words in a sentence, impugn isn't something you fucking use everday.

I don't give a **** who you are, you are on the fucking internet and I know your dumbass is looking up words to sound intelligent. You are a little bitch, and you are the fucking idiot.

And yes boxers don't lift weights because they fear to get too bulky and slow down.

Really ?

What do they do then ? Various pushups/situps/chinups/dips ?

Bodyweight exercises only I take it ?

Yeah, lots and lots of bodyweight exercises. Teresa (one of the boxers I train with) says she lifted for a while and she felt it slowed her down.

Yrkoon what the **** are you talking about? Trying to kiss ass to who?

I could give a **** who you "surprise" me with. Well connected in the BJJ world? I could give a flying **** man.

If you don't want to tell me, that's fucking dandy. I could give a ****. I also never claimed to be an expert, and if your dumbass had two shits of the memory of a fucking parrot you would know that I have no video of myself....

Wow....so fucking dense. Anyways, I'll be waiting for the fucking surprise.

"Yo...it's Bill. Be on the look out for a white belt with a gimp hand. He may be the real quiet one with no friends, or the loud mouth shittalker. Code Red. I repeat again, Code Red."

^Lol, that is too fucking hilarious.

I don't give a **** if you use long words in a sentence, impugn isn't something you fucking use everday.

I don't give a **** who you are, you are on the fucking internet and I know your dumbass is looking up words to sound intelligent. You are a little bitch, and you are the fucking idiot.There actually do exist people in the world who use a different vocabulary to you, some of them even do it because yours is not the the only cultural environment that exists.

I'll let the shock sink in for a while.

a lot of fighters dont use weights solely because they dont know HOW.

if you use them effectively then they can be a huge help. you look at the top of the pile in a lot of combat sports, especially in the heavies (not so much in divisions that need to cut weight, but still there too) and a big number use weight training.

Kid,

It is my belief that every professional athlete, including fighters, utilize some form of weight training.

Being stronger longer pays in the fight game.

Lifting weights doesn't slow you down.

Kid,

It is my belief that every professional athlete, including fighters, utilize some form of weight training.

Being stronger longer pays in the fight game.

I'm not against weight training, all I'm saying is that a lot of the fighters I know don't do it for whatever reason.

I don't do it mainly for fear of bulking up.

There are a lot of boxing coaches out there who strongly discourage lifting.

They have a point: it takes a lot of skill to make the extra strength pay off.

I find that a minimal amount of lifting actually improves my speed: at least, it feels that way. And it doesn't bulk me up, but that might be my body type.

The boxing coaches I've talked to about it discouraged much lifting. Weird that in 2003 that sentiment was still prevalent at a competitive college team.

There is all kinds of lifting. But women have real trouble actually 'bulking' up without a little tesoterone therapy~

Weight training does a lot of OTHER things for fighters. Like I said, longer stronger is just one. Injury prevention is another.

I'll give you MY example. I have been off and on weights forever. I have never stuck with any program. But I decided I wanted to gain 10lbs in the next year. Not an unreasonable goal lifting 2-3x per week. But mainly I want to work on overall strength and conditioning. Because strength =/= size all the time.

Now strength can be measured in a lot of different ways. What I am looking for is a moderate increase in maximum output. For example I have never bench pressed more than 200lbs for fear my collarbone would just pop out. It won't be unreasonable to be benching 240lbs in the next year. However with that strength increase, I will be bencing that 200lbs not as a maximum but will be able to do it for repetitions. Right now I do 10 reps of 175 very easily. By the time I am benching 240lbs it will be possible to do 20-25 reps of 175lbs.

BTW - bench press is overrated. I am using it as a generic example.

Now although my strength has increased my body mass has not really increased much. How would this transfer to fighting? Instead of putting out 200lbs of pressure once. I will be able to put it out numerous times. And instead of each round doing 10 power punches at 175 lbs of pressure I can do 20-25 power punches at 175lbs of pressure and feel the same amount of muscular fatigue.

I know that is a bad example but it sorta illustrates the principle.

That video you posted of the HnS fight that had that bodybuilder looking girl, Mayra? Just to put that in perspective. She had at the time, over 10 years of weight training JUST for size. To get that way she took mad amounts of steroids to the point she actually had to shave her face because of the testosterone. She was putting away close to $500 in junk every month. She also spent 2 hours every single day at the gym lifting heavy weights.

The average fighter certainly doesnt need that at all. But 1 hour 2-3x per week as supplemental training focused specifically on the kind of fighting you do is going to do nothing but help.

For example:

My training is focused on overall strength with a few points of emphasis. I am doing Deadlifts so that my double leg takedowns are going to be stronger. I am doing Rows so that I can pull my arm out of armlocks.

I am not doing specific body part excersizes so that I 'look' big. I have no interest and never had in being some meathead. My weight training is specific to my sport.

I give another example. When I used to kickbox I had upper back injuries all the time. I didn't understand why. I would get like pinched nerves that would hurt so I couldnt turn my neck. Turns out that all this time I was doing my punching drills I was neglecting the OPPOSING muscle groups that kept my posture. I started doing upright rows and developing my rear deltoids. Viola! No more back pain. The overdeveloped punching muscles needed some kind of equalizing muscles. So obviously this wasn't a strength issue. It was an injury prevention excersize.

Something else I have heard, AFTER THE FACT DAMMIT, was that with all the roundhouse kicks your hamstrings do not get the same kind of workout and your legs can become...unbalanced. And it is the hamstring muscles that do a lot of the work in protecting your ACL. And all the force transfered from your thai kick? It is felt directly in the ligaments of your knee. Without the equalizing force of the hamstring 'pulling back' on hte back of your tibia/fibula you are at risk for ACL injuries. I of course, had to find this out the hard way after years of overdeveloped quads and underdeveloped hamstrings.

My diet is about to be looking like tuna and chicken and fruit and oatmeal and a lot of water.

I dont paticularly aim for any real nutritious goals, I am just going to be eating like that to lose a little weight and then lose a little more in the sauna so i can fight at 155

I've considered consulting a nutritionist in the future as I would like to get my walking weight down to 155 and see how my body reacts to a healthy diet.

I dont lift weights.Try to replace canned tuna with salmon. It's a bit more expensive, but it does wonders... not a biggie, though. I'm amazed you don't eat eggs. You may not lift weights, but I'm sure you do a lot of cardio just by striking the **** out of heavy bags, so a few eggs wouldn't hurt your weight.

My suspicion is that you already know more or less what type of diet works for your body, but I'd also suggest you eat yogurt, and (*gasp*) ice cream. Yep, ice cream. I kid you not :) I eat ice cream for dinner mondays through wednesdays, and my weight has been a steady 140+lbs for almost two months already. Ever since I've started eating ice cream like that, I've actually added more muscle and yet drop weight - meaning that my body fat has gone down a lot. It sounds weird, but your body needs the sugars and the fat...

... then again, I lift weights... but you work out and train to beat the crap out of heavy thingies hanging from the ceiling and people, so it may work for you as well for dropping weight :P

As for the yogurt, the healthy bacteria in it helps your stomach. Your stomach is going to love you if you feed it yogurt regularly.

I don't do it mainly for fear of bulking up.


You won't.


Regardless, be sure to follow a power/strength protocol appropriate to your goals, not the bodybuilding protocols most people follow.