The Wastrel
5/04/2003 11:48am,
I watched the De La Hoya-Campas fight last night, and I am baffled at the continued popularity of boxing. Boxing is a great discipline that has produced some truly great fighters, but all of those guys last night would have met varying degrees of destruction in an eclectic match. There was more intensity in the crowd than in the ring. I can only conclude that with the purses being so outrageous AND guaranteed, that big names like De La Hoya can afford to be so cautious and boring. Is it true he made $11m for that fight? This seems to be a sport that has been drained of life. Somebody needs to issue a new cross-venue challenge.
"I'm devastating, looking for some refreshment!"
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Deadpan Scientist
5/04/2003 1:11pm,
As long as the money is there, why bother making a cross venue challenge?
Fisting Kittens
5/04/2003 1:15pm,
I'll watch Olympic boxing, but pro boxing is about as interesting as NASCAR.
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Shut up and train
The Wastrel
5/04/2003 3:20pm,
BSS,
I mean the other way!! Somebody like Nog needs to say, "Hey, **** You! I'll Kick Your Ass!"
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Deadpan Scientist
5/04/2003 5:01pm,
Don't the boxers already know that Nog could kick their asses?
Ya Olympic boxing is good to watch.
The president of UFC (I THINK) called out a major boxing promoter a few months ago. The boxing guy was running his mouth off about how MMA guys wouldn't stand a chance agianst a good boxer. The UFC guy (Might have been Dana White) told him to name the place and time and they'd meet and find out, I don't think the boxing guy has responded since!!!!!
"An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind"
-Ghandi
Deadpan Scientist
5/04/2003 7:10pm,
Say it ain't so Osiris!
CrimsonTiger
5/08/2003 11:55pm,
Osiris,
That's the best way to build self confidence...beat the weak!
Regards,
CrimsonTiger
"Happiness is finding yourself in the adoring gaze of one who loves you.
I hope to once again know that feeling."
Mercurius
5/09/2003 12:38am,
When I win the lottery, since Ashida Kim has already been punked, I'm going to invest in the 20-second long tackling and submission of Mike Tyson by Nog. Just think, if it's 20 bucks a head to watch it on PPV, and Tyson goes down in less than a minute, how much I'll save on hourly wages for the cameramen and support crew!
Fighty McGee
5/09/2003 9:35am,
Toughman is still fun to watch. Occasionally "higher" levels of pro boxing is kinda fun to watch, like if there is some hyped up grudge between the fighters.
I usually stick to Sumo though...
Punisher
5/09/2003 10:23am,
Give boxing a break, it has to be on top for a reason. Everyone says things have gone downhill, that it is boring now, and there are no good fighters but the PPV revenues still keep coming in and people still talk about it about a million times more than any other combat sport.
MMA would do anything to have the reputation and draw value of boxing, and would be have the exact same problems if it did. Top MMA fighters are already becoming more concerned about which fight pays the most instead of which is best challenges their abilities, and I don’t blame them for it. Why do anything more than necessary to win and put your entire career at risk, when there are a bigger and bigger paydays waiting for you down the road?
Sure boxing has Mike Tyson, but MMA has people like Tank Abbot, Gary Goodridge, and Bob Sapp that have also taken a gimmick that draws money to make up for diminished or never existent talent.
I know boxing often disappoints, but there have been some real snoozers in MMA also. Does anyone remember that horrendous Shamrock vs Severn “Superfight”?
If you want to be guaranteed a good show watch something scripted like WWE, but even then **** happens and guys get hurt in a way that makes it necessary to change the script. I guess when it comes down to it, you better of going to the movies.
If an MMA guy had to fight under boxing rules a seasoned boxer would clean his clock. Hell for that matter if any martial artist would have to fight in a boxer's style (hands only no feet) they would probably loose.
They are totally different styles of fighting! Put a boxer in a ring and tell him he can use his feet against a black belt in martial arts he'll probably loose.
It's like comparing a train to a bus. Sure they will both get you to your destination, but is one really better than the other?
At least they still put boxing on TV. They rarely cover martial art bouts, and TKB is hardly every shown, and that's a sponsored business! Ultimate fighting is only on pay per view, or you have to buy / rent the tapes.
I say be glad at least some form of our sport is on TV!
The Wastrel
5/09/2003 3:07pm,
Oh wow! I never knew that!!
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - for ever."
Edited by - The Wastrel on May 09 2003 15:08:19
boxing = yawn
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(And my two creaky knees...)
9chambers
5/10/2003 4:35pm,
I just wish they would at least show the wrestling and Judo on TV during the Olympics. All you see is gymnastics and swimming and crap. I want to see the wrestlers go at it.
CrimsonTiger
5/11/2003 4:33pm,
I watched the replay of the fight on TSN up here in Canada last night. The fight was definitely lagging, but if De La Hoya really had trouble with his left hand the WHOLE bout, that would explain it.
He also doesn't have much motivation against someone like Campas. Throw him in against Trinidad again or his upcoming fight in September which he is OBVIOUSLY pumped for. I'm willing to bet THAT fight would be one to watch.
Regards,
CrimsonTiger
"Happiness is finding yourself in the adoring gaze of one who loves you.
I hope to once again know that feeling."
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