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Omar
12/29/2005 7:24am,
editing.....

uploading......

done:

http://s22.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=37GA3OI5LNIKD0BU0RNKBYR19M

Well?

(extra link: http://media.putfile.com/footwork23 )

supercrap
12/29/2005 7:38am,
What do you want, a critique?

Omar
12/29/2005 7:46am,
I made that clip partly in response to a discussoin on kicking on another thread. I want to see if anyone can see what that clip has to do with kicking.

Do you know what is being shown in the clip?

A critique? Sure. If you think you know what you are looking at I would love a critique. The clip is a little rushed but I think it shows the general idea. What's your critique? What are you looking at there?

Cullion
12/29/2005 7:47am,
< move along, nothing to see here>

Well?

Looks like a thai kick to me (having never trained in Muay Thai and just watched clips).

Omar
12/29/2005 7:48am,
I hope I linked the right clip....checking.....


DOH!

Linked the wrong clip.

Check back in about 5-10 minutes while I get this straightened out. .....how embarrasing.

I just made a small handfull of clips today and got them mixed up I guess. Cullion, could you do me a favor and take down that wrond link you quoted? I wanted to post that later on. Hopefully not too many people have already looked at that clip *groan*.

supercrap
12/29/2005 7:53am,
It's just a guy practicing roundhouses in a gym... is it you?

What does it have to do with kicking? Well, he's doing a kick... His legs are relatively straight throughout which suggests to me he's using his core, but other than that i don't know?

Omar
12/29/2005 7:55am,
Yeah I know. I wanted to make a point about footwork. Hand on untill I get the right clip up there. Yes. That's me.

Omar
12/29/2005 8:04am,
Alright, so I've now completely ruined all the mystery for at least 58 posters who have viewed this thread already but anyways, the proper clip is up.

The second clip, the one Cullion quoted is partly for Kidspatulas benifit.

*blech* I sure fucked up this one.

Omar
12/29/2005 8:11am,
lol.

Thanks Cullion.

supercrap
12/29/2005 8:25am,
I gotta admit, I don't really know what it has to do with kicking. It looks to me like somethingfrom baghua. i dont see the soles of your feet much. A few years ago, when I was a wing chun nut and into all that stuff, I probably would have told you.

Now, if it doesnt look like a kick, i dont see how it trains a kick. Im not saying it doesnt, im just saying I cant see it.

Cullion
12/29/2005 8:27am,
The clip you intended to put up looks like you are demonstrating bagua circle stepping footwork which allows you to rotate your whole body around (say, for a thai-like round kick) without having to 'float' by going up on the ball of your foot.

Omar
12/29/2005 8:43am,
Cullion tagged it.

It would have been more fun if neither of you saw the kick first. But since you did, compare the footwork. It's a quicktime clip so you can drag it through the clip at whatever speed you want and reverse it and all.

Fact is, I don't really practice round kicks anymore. I practice bagua stepping which I have adapted in the second clip. . . .which I'll repost later after ..with a little luck, some more folks have looked at the first one and ended up either just sratching their heads or flaming me as a chi hugging pansy.

I made the second clip, Cullion, specifically for Kidspatula after we had an exchange about the relative merits of flat footed kicking vs. ball of foot kicking.

Now take the extra imaginary step and see how the footwork relates to punching. I purposely left my arms loose at my sides so that it wouldn't be obvious. Understand that this is how I learned how to do low kicks and knee strikes as well. It's all in that first clip. Something I was, untill a couple months ago, practicing about an hour a day with at least 2 or 3 90 minute sessions/week.

Omar
12/29/2005 8:50am,
I gotta admit, I don't really know what it has to do with kicking. It looks to me like somethingfrom baghua. i dont see the soles of your feet much. A few years ago, when I was a wing chun nut and into all that stuff, I probably would have told you.

Now, if it doesnt look like a kick, i dont see how it trains a kick. Im not saying it doesnt, im just saying I cant see it.

Well, at least now you understand the context of my original post and my curiosity that you even knew what you were looking at. :toothy9: Like I think I already said:

Compare the footwork. ( and the body method. )

oldman_withers
12/29/2005 11:44am,
Fact is, I don't really practice round kicks anymore. I practice bagua stepping...


Ok, call me naive here, but why not practice the actual kick anymore? I understand the value of form, and it seems like your movement is smooth and highly-trained. However, in my personal opinion, there is always room for improvement in ones basic strikes. I like to warm up with footwork and shadowboxing type techiniques (with footwork too), but I don't see how it's good practice to not train the power of your kicks along with the finesse. Maybe you have your reasons, but you didn't make them too clear in any of the posts. Thanks for bearing with me.

Shooter
12/29/2005 12:46pm,
Because he's not practicing to improve kicks, strikes, techniques, or skills.

He's playing with an idea that addresses a different perspective on continuity, and the perceptions that movement creates...maybe

Matt Bernius
12/29/2005 12:50pm,
Omar,

Could you repost the kick vid file. Because I'm having some issue with what you're saying and your application of the mudslipping dynamic. But before I talk out of my rectum, I'd like to see the way you throw the thai roundhouse.

- Matt