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12/27/2005 6:56am,
Has anyone ever heard of or trained at Jan de Jong (www.jandejong.com.au) in Perth?

They teach some style of Ju Jutsu. I have tried a couple of classes of shoot and BJJ which I enjoyed however they were too far from where I live to do regularly. I want to do something that I can mix in with strking skills from boxing so some form of submission seems the way to go.

I did a free class at Jan de Jong which was mostly stand up submission... block an attackers punch, take them to ground and apply a wrist or shoulder lock. It seemed ok but I as suspicious of actually using a double hand block to setup up a submission on someone with real striking skills.

From talking with the trainers (senseis) they do seem quite realistic in what they can and cant do. What does leaving me wondering is that they claim to be a self defence school, however they were gi's, belts and bare feet. Why wear this when a self defence situation will likely involve normal clothing and wearing shoes?

Input appreciated, I dont want to waste anytime with another Bullshido.


I aint punchy!?
12/27/2005 7:55am,
I never went to any of his seminars, but I remember seeing posters of him around the place. In it he was depicted using escrima sticks in an ice-pick grip.

I couldn't help but laugh at how BS that was.

12/27/2005 7:57am,
Sounds like "normal" JJJ to me. I train at a similiar school (different organisation) right now (mainly because they do a bit of ne waza, and some friends train there). It's not bad, but it is not quite the same as MMA or cross-training. I'd take up judo instead if I were you. I'm going to....

The point with wearing gi is that they are doing ju jutsu after all, not RBSD.

EDIT: Definitly go for the Judo. The prices seem high as hell, hell, I pay half of their monthly fee for half a year of training. Oh, and their women's self defense pictures seem weird as hell.

12/27/2005 11:08am,
I've heard that Jan De Jong (the man, not the school) was actually quite skilled and knew what he was doing. How much of that carried over to the school I don't know. You might want to look for a nearby judo school, it'll be a lot cheaper.

I'm surprised there's no BJJ schools near you, they seem to be popping up all over the place in Perth lately.

12/27/2005 11:04pm,
I'm surprised there's no BJJ schools near you, they seem to be popping up all over the place in Perth lately.

There's Academy of Mixed Martial Arts (www.mixedmartialarts.com.au) which teach Machado BJJ by a brown belt which is about 30 mins drive away however there prices are steep aswell.

12/28/2005 1:17am,
My mate goes to that jujitsu place. It is acutally quite good, I've sparred with him a bit and he does know quite alot. However I'm not sure if that has to do with his 3 years training here or 6 years in sweden.

Either way, I watched their demo and it was pretty good. that Academy place looks really good. I'm planning on starting up there soon hopefully. Mainly because it has the casual classes option, which is what I need because I'm only going to be in Perth 1 out of every 3 weeks next year.

12/28/2005 5:15am,
There's Academy of Mixed Martial Arts (www.mixedmartialarts.com.au) which teach Machado BJJ by a brown belt which is about 30 mins drive away however there prices are steep aswell.There's a few more than just the Academy.


That page has a list of bjj clubs in Perth, scattered around the place.

12/28/2005 5:44am,
Man, why do they all have to be so far away! I'm near Hillarys...These places are all in bloody vic park, cannington, bunbury.....Looks like I'm sticking with The Academy. Halogen, where do you train?

12/28/2005 9:50am,
. Halogen, where do you train?At the moment I'm doing some fairly informal classes once a week with an old instructor of mine at this tiny little gym in northbridge. I'm thinking of picking up kickboxing at a place in freo in the new year since I don't get to do much sparring at the moment.

12/28/2005 6:48pm,

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12/29/2005 10:27am,
As fate would have it, I actually live across the road from Jan de Jong. They offer Japanese Ju Jitsu, Akido and sword (katana) training. I went to check them out but decided that they weren't what I was looking for for two reasons:
1. They are very traditional
2. They are very expensive

They offer 3 memberships

Silver allows you to train only once a week ($50/month)
Gold allows you to train 3 days a week ($85/month)
Platinum allows you to train 5 days a week ($125/month)

I don't think there is anything wrong with what they teach, just expensive and a bit strict for my liking. Also the higher memeberships give you discount on seminars, now if I am paying $125 a month I don't expect to pay **** for anything else.

A friend of mine did the womens self-defense course (6 weeks, one night a week). It was ok but I told her she would have to keep it up if she wanted to be able to apply it.

There is FightClub in Osborne Park, they are about $120/month and produce many MMA fighters and there is The Academy of Mixed Martial Arts which I have also heard good things about, but is a touch pricey at $90/month with a $55 joining fee.

Tonight I went to check out Gracie Barra BJJ in Cannington and have decided to join them. It's not that far from the City just an extra 10 mins drive. They offer Vale Tudo and BJJ classes. Fees are reasonable $78/month or very cheap if you join up for a year ($750/year). In addition they train on Tues, Thurs and Saturdays for about 2-3 hours at a time (the others typically offer 1 hour lessons). Saturday is open mat 12-2 and they encourage cross-training in that time.

I'll be joining on 5th Jan and am signing up for a year ($62.50/month!).
I have done a fairly extensive scout around Perth for a good place to train and these guys get my money, mostly due to thier open attitude on training.

12/29/2005 11:33am,
Wow, that's like....4 other people on these forums besides me that live in Perth!
I'm amazed.

12/29/2005 11:37am,
Wow, that's like....4 other people on these forums besides me that live in Perth!
I'm amazed.

We should get together. Where do you do Muay Thai?

12/30/2005 4:44am,
Used to train at Phon's (www.muaythaipromotions.com), but stopped because of TEE...then my membership ran out. So lately, I've just been sparring with my mate, but I'm planning on starting back up at Phon's. It's a great place hey. Phon's the man.

Thinking of maybe doing just casual classes of bjj aswell, but I'm yet to find somewhere close...maybe because I haven't looked yet. But I'll get there.

12/30/2005 7:23am,
I trained at Phons for 6 years, 3 years then did degree then another 3 years, how long did you train for? Whereabouts do you live, I have recently done a BJJ survey of Perth so I might know somewhere around you.

Phon is a great teacher but he got too expensive for me. I have a hard limit of $80/mo that I am willing to pay for training. Whats he charging now?

1/03/2006 9:34am,
Phon is a great teacher but he got too expensive for me.

It would be good if the website listed the prices. Im curious to know how much aswell.

This is slightly off track but when I used to train at Develerrez (boxing) a few years ago there was no joining fee and if you paid $10 on the Monday you could train all week (Mon-Thurs), otherwise it was $5 a lesson. Chances are prices have increased now. They weren't there to make money (training was there second job) they just love the sport... I wish I could find a BJJ and Muay Thai place like that.

Who is Develerrez? Pat Devellerz was Danny Greens trainer as an amatuer and Rocko Develerrez has trained some good fighters as amatuers such as Ben Cruz.

I have trained at a few other boxing gyms and so have my mates and no one has ever found a better place to train than those guys.

Back on track now.