Media Collateral Ligament Torn

Retinculum Torn

Joint Capsule Torn

ACL Partial Tear

Quadrucep High Grade Tear

I'm seeing a knee specialist today, but does anyone who has experienced soemthing similar have a guess for recovery time?

Looks like you're out for the season.

I was sidelined for over 6 months with a knee injury when I was a teenager.

Why would anyone want to top that? Jesus...

For your injuries - who knows. They might do the surgeries all at once or have to do one, let it heal for a month and then go back in to do the next one. Depends on the doctor, depends on the true extent of the injuries once they open you up - there can be surprises. The ACL partial they'll probably leave alone depending on the size and location of the tear - you don't want them to mess with that one unless they absolutely have to do so.

Knee injuries are the big suck - when it rains, I feel the screws in my bones. Tendonitis is another problem. You have to be patient, find the right doctor, the right rehab facility and be diligent about your recovery - do everything that you get told to do, don't overextend and hope your insurance will cover as much as possible. Good luck.

Did you do this in training?

Sorry about your injuries. I don't think you can walk this one off or massage it away.

You'd think I would have done it in training or something, but I didn't. I did it at a punk rock show actually. I was on the edge of the pit when one guy fell right between my legs, and another fell into the outside of my knee simultaneously. It dislocated pretty bad, with my kneecap on the side of my leg.

During training, I'm very aware of threats to my joints, as I dislocated the same knee about 15 years ago in training. It wasn't nearly so severe, but ever since, I've been very cautious about foot placement, how my feet are planted, where momentum is coming from etc. Unfortunately, Dropkick Murphys show are just too damn chaotic, and I got nailed

It really sucked because I had been training hard, dropping weight, and was getting ready to do some competitions this spring. It's looking like that'll be on hold for a bit.

That sucks. You're probably out for close to a year, especially if you want to compete. Don't indulge in beer + ice cream therapy while you're coming back and be patient. I would say try to work out as much as possible prior to surgery, but you can't with injuries like those.

**** happens. Unfortunately, this **** is elephant-sized.

Right knee, high-school soccer injury back in 1999.

Meniscus tear, tendons connected to the knee cap, acl torn and my knee cap shattered into two big pieces and a bunch of tiny ones. I actually went to the sidelines and passed around and went back into the game. As soon as I went to a full sprint I could feel the pieces of my kneecap floating up and down. I knew I was fucked at that point as I had previously torn my acl in that knee. Downtime was around 1 year until I could go full blast again. 6 months until I could really start to build my legs back up. The worst part about such a serious knee injury is the mental stuff. I was pretty much an asshole for a good year after that happened because my soccer career was put into the coffin and nailed shut.

Good luck, and make sure your working with the best specialist and rehab people you can pay for, it makes every bit of difference.

You'd think I would have done it in training or something, but I didn't. I did it at a punk rock show actually. I was on the edge of the pit when one guy fell right between my legs, and another fell into the outside of my knee simultaneously. It dislocated pretty bad, with my kneecap on the side of my leg.

During training, I'm very aware of threats to my joints, as I dislocated the same knee about 15 years ago in training. It wasn't nearly so severe, but ever since, I've been very cautious about foot placement, how my feet are planted, where momentum is coming from etc. Unfortunately, Dropkick Murphys show are just too damn chaotic, and I got nailed

It really sucked because I had been training hard, dropping weight, and was getting ready to do some competitions this spring. It's looking like that'll be on hold for a bit.


Dude, that is harsh. Best wishes for your prognosis and recovery. I know I'm perpetually paranoid about things like major knee injuries, so I totally empathize with you.

That being said, I guess I'd better say it:

Punk Rock Wins Again! :)

Best Wishes for a speedy recovery,

-daGorilla

Ryno, just rub some dirt on it.

Nah, I'm kidding, here's to good recovery and health. *eats cottage cheese with fruit*

Worst I can clame is Osgood-Schlatters(sp?)

Coach Andy sez:

Walk it off, boy! Suck it up...If you aint painin' you an't trainin'! YOu want me to call yer mommy for you?!?! Blaaarghh!

Seriously...that is one impressive injury. You will be playing video games and not much else for the next 6 months or so...

Sorry.

Ryno, I've got one;

Partial MCL tear, partial PCL tear

Tear in Meniscus, requiring partial removal

ACL ruptured, requiring total replacement.

Had the surgery 8 weeks ago. Got off the crutches two weeks ago.

I'm out for a minimum of 26 weeks from training. Gonna need a $2000 brace, and physio up the wazoo.

I feel your pain buddy. Get yourself a hot physio therapist. It helps for some reason.

Nice. Couple of good ones here, keep them coming.

Luckily I train in two arts, FMA and JJJ. FMA is a lot less stressful on the knees, so I'm hoping that I can get back to that a bit sooner. It'll probably be longer before I can roll in Ju-Jutsu though.

Yeah, thanks for the diet tips. That was a problem that I had last time I did my knee in. I kept eating like an active athlete, and packed on a few pounds. I'm going to be watching it this time around, and will make sure to do lots of pull ups and bench press. Cardio will be my main issue, as I was getting back into top form, running stairs for 45 minutes twice a week, 5 mile runs, and 8+ rounds of three minutes on the heavy bag. It just sucks that a lot of this conditioning will go to crap with my time off.

Sorry to hear that. Forced time off due to injury really sucks. I've been fortunate to have never had a serious knee injury, but know several people who have.

My guess is rehab immediately post surgery, or within a couple of weeks, every doctor has a different philosophy about that. If it were me, I'd try to get into to rehab as soon as possible. You might be able to begin some light training on your own around 3-4 months. By light training, I mean swimming, weights, maybe short runs, etc. At 6-8 months, you should be able to train MA again, but you'll need to be very careful and take it easy. Probably 10-12 months before any competition, or full intensity training.

That's just a rough guess. I've seen people competing again within 4 months, but I think that's unusual. Also, yours is pretty torn up.

The most important thing is not to overdo it in the beginning, during rehab. That's the whole point of having a PT there when agressive athletes like us are rehabbing an injury. We want to get really agressive and push it too hard. This often leads to re-injury and a much longer overall recovery time. I've seen that happen several times. 2nd surgery within 8 months. Definitely don't want that!

Knees are from the devil.

Take it easy, man. I had a small injury which I aggravated and now it will take longer to heal. :(

PL

Woot! Went to the knee specialist yesterday, and it is looking like I won't need surgery. Apparently the ACL is the only ligament that generally requires surgery. Most of my damage was to the other side, hitting the MCL, and I only had minor ACL damage which wasn't severe enough to warrant any cutting. They generally won't do surgery on the MCL, as it recovers well on its own, and most of the other stuff that I damaged was various muscles that hook up to the knee, which are able to take damage and recover.

So, he put me in a hinged bionic man brace to keep the knee stable, and allow me to walk to maintain flexibility and strength. There was no talk of therapy yet, and I'll see the doc in another two weeks.

I was mentally prepared for the worst, but this was pretty much the best case scenerio that I could hope for.