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haji
10/14/2005 12:22am,
I'm just curious how many days a week people that lift weights and train bjj do each? I have been doing lifting for several years and just started bjj. I noticed that my strength and energy while lifting have gone way down, but I expected that.

Poop Loops
10/14/2005 12:49am,
What's your schedule look like?

PL

Camus
10/14/2005 1:07am,
I do 2-3 days of BJJ a week (although not since uni started up again) and find it hard to lift more than once a week without cutting short my strength significantly in one or the other, but I'm sure other guys handle it much better than I have. My compensation for the reduced lifting and rolling is lots of rest and going hard as possible in both lifting and BJJ.

In short, I am in the same conumdrum as yourself.

Tacitus
10/14/2005 6:45am,
I havn't lifted since highschool (and even then I was pretty half assed, thoughtless about it). But recently I started again, because I really think my overall strength needs improving, and I find that it has taken it's toll on my rolling. I think this has to do with the fact that BJJ is almost like resistance training in itself, that the body never really has enough time to recover. I have found that making sure I drink a shake with whey/complex & simple carsbs within half an hour of finishing lifting or BJJ has helped alot. Other than that, I'm in the same boat brother.

Ronin
10/14/2005 6:55am,
You have to give your body time to recover, or your ST will suffer.
Its not that BJJ is so streneous that you CAN'T ST, its that you have to adjust one to the other.
IF you wanna focus on BJJ, you have to tailor your ST around BJJ, and vice-versa.

BenwaMandelbrot
10/14/2005 7:18am,
As of late, I've had time to train BJJ 6 times a week, two hours a day (although an hour of that is technique/warm-up), with an hour of boxing or kickboxing twice a week on top of that.

I've just introduced strength training on top of that, at least twice a week and sometimes 3 times, but in the morning only. Since beginning it, I've noticed more of a tendency towards fatigue by the end of the week, but that might just be because I'm adding some new exercise stress. When I started BJJ, it wore me out going three times a week, now I don't have much problem with 6 days. Any tiredness is not helped by my failure to get my ass in bed before midnight.

I have been careful to eat as well as possible (lots of raw veggies, green drink-type supplements, fish, fish oil, and chicken). Also, I've been taking whey protein before and after BJJ. Hard to tell if that's helping or not.

I was slowly but steadily losing weight (from 182 down to 171 lbs, and I'm 6ft) until I increased my calorie intake and started using the protein supplements. It's increased a bit since.

I'm just going to monitor my overall energy levels and see how things go. I'm 33 and was a pasty weak desk-jockey in February this year. Now I can roll for 30 minute rounds at a time. My conditioning is definitely a lot better than my technique, but even that's improving slowly (well it ought to, at 6 days a week).

If anything has to go, it will be the strength training for now. I'm going to have to stop doing BJJ so often in a couple of months, so I am making the most of it while I can.

Seriously, you young college-age whippersnappers; if you're studying an MA that you love, then grab that brass ring with both hands and go for it. Train as hard as you can, as often as you can, while your lives are still relatively uncomplicated and you still have open schedules.

It's an amazing opportunity you have and you'll appreciate it all the more if it goes.

Jaguar Wong
10/14/2005 1:44pm,
I just started both (weights in Feb, BJJ in August) but I had to leave the weight alone for the first month of BJJ. Now I'm doing both twice a week, but not on the same days. sometimes I'll only do BJJ once during the week, or weights once during the week. But the only thing I've noticed is that my elbows hurt all the time because of BJJ (armbars are my kryptonite) I thought I was making it worse with the weights (which is one of the reasons I took that month off), but they've started getting better even though I'm lifting again.

Ronin
10/14/2005 1:48pm,
You realise that, to SUPPLEMENT yout BJJ with ST, you DO NOT have to train 3 times a week, 2 is more than enough, heck even ONCE is ok, if you hit your whole body with compond lifts.

thomaspaine
10/14/2005 2:10pm,
I just started both (weights in Feb, BJJ in August) but I had to leave the weight alone for the first month of BJJ. Now I'm doing both twice a week, but not on the same days. sometimes I'll only do BJJ once during the week, or weights once during the week. But the only thing I've noticed is that my elbows hurt all the time because of BJJ (armbars are my kryptonite) I thought I was making it worse with the weights (which is one of the reasons I took that month off), but they've started getting better even though I'm lifting again.
I had the same problem. When I started bjj I was lifting three days a week and my elbows started hurting to the point where it hurt to do pushups. Then I hurt my wrist and I stopped lifting and haven't really done it since. I've been contemplating lifting again though, since I'm not relying on as much strength at bjj and my body isn't a complete wreck after practice anymore.

Samfoo
10/14/2005 2:29pm,
You realise that, to SUPPLEMENT yout BJJ with ST, you DO NOT have to train 3 times a week, 2 is more than enough, heck even ONCE is ok, if you hit your whole body with compond lifts.

What would you recommend for a program then? Deadlifts/Bench/Squat on the same day, or alternate? For one day a week, it seems like it would be tough.

Ronin
10/14/2005 2:31pm,
What would you recommend for a program then? Deadlifts/Bench/Squat on the same day, or alternate? For one day a week, it seems like it would be tough.

When do you do MA ?

RoninPimp
10/14/2005 2:44pm,
I do BJJ or Crossfit 4 or 5 days a week. The combination depends on how much mat time I can get which depends on how busy work is.

BenwaMandelbrot
10/14/2005 3:05pm,
You realise that, to SUPPLEMENT yout BJJ with ST, you DO NOT have to train 3 times a week, 2 is more than enough, heck even ONCE is ok, if you hit your whole body with compond lifts.

I did not realize this. So the "set of 5" twice a week should cover my grappling and striking strength training needs quite nicely then?

It would be nice to get an additional morning off.

Ronin
10/14/2005 3:06pm,
I did not realize this. So the "set of 5" twice a week should cover my grappling and striking strength training needs quite nicely then?

It would be nice to get an additional morning off.


What exactly are you gonna do?

lawdog
10/14/2005 3:06pm,
You have to figure out what works for you, but I'd recommend trying to work your whole body 2x per week. Lifting whole body 2x per week, judo 2x per week, and boxing 2 or 3 times per week always worked great for me. I was also runing and swimming without overtraining.

Ideally, I'd think ST 2x per week, and MA 2-3x per week would be a good routine for most people.

Ronin
10/14/2005 3:09pm,
You have to figure out what works for you, but I'd recommend trying to work your whole body 2x per week. Lifting whole body 2x per week, judo 2x per week, and boxing 2 or 3 times per week always worked great for me. I was also runing and swimming without overtraining.

Ideally, I'd think ST 2x per week, and MA 2-3x per week would be a good routine for most people.


Pretty much, especially if they have the last ST workout on the day where they will be resting after.