I see your point. Wasn't really disputing that.

I think most boxer's fractures happen however, when an inebriated young male gets frustrated and tries to vent his negative vibrations by punching a wall/lamp-post/ hard skulled acquaintance.

I bet a an average boxer has a higher chance of suffering a boxer's fracture, than a run of the mill junior citizen, but the ever dwindling number of practitioners of this noble art are greatly overshadowed by the masses of easily frustrated young males.

Considering the force a Boxer would be punching with against random inebriated male I would say yes, the Boxer has a greater chance of suffering said fracture.

Though I've rarely actually got one, and I street fight more than the average moron (thats right, I'm an above average moron, who wants me to sign their ass?)

As I said earlier though, conditioning, good technique and actually hitting the right part helps though.

What your feet do is every bit as important as what your hands are doing. You shouldn’t stand in one place while you shadowbox. I know your videography resources are limited; but I would say that one cannot completely judge a video like this without seeing your footwork.

For me, shadowboxing isn’t so much throwing combos one after another, as fighting an imaginary opponent. So I’m not just attacking, but defending and evading, constantly circling. Stitch attacks to blocks to develop counterpunching. Also I don’t think there was a single body shot... Crash in and throw some left hooks to the liver.

What your feet do is every bit as important as what your hands are doing. You shouldn’t stand in one place while you shadowbox. I know your videography resources are limited; but I would say that one cannot completely judge a video like this without seeing your footwork.

For me, shadowboxing isn’t so much throwing combos one after another, as fighting an imaginary opponent. So I’m not just attacking, but defending and evading, constantly circling. Stitch attacks to blocks to develop counterpunching. Also I don’t think there was a single body shot... Crash in and throw some left hooks to the liver.


I think for where he's at, he should really be concentrating on the basics (jab, cross) and not worry about too much at once. Trying to do everything before you really have a solid idea of how to do things is naughty.

In fact, I'd recommend he shadowbox using JUST his jab for a while

Alright, in about two weeks i'll try and take a video that shows my footwork and i'll include pivots and kickss n stuff.
i will seriously keep all of your suggestions in mind.

My coach taught me to hook with my palm facing towards my face, and my arm parallel to the ground. The advantage being that the bicep supports the fist when your palm is facing your body, as opposed to the ground. I've tried both ways, and I find that the palm facing the body works much better than the alternative.
My coach, trained/managed Eric Morel (undefeated super-fly-weight boxing champion), and the USA Olympic Boxing Team for at least one year, so keep that in mind. Our method works. Jones, dude, this is for reference, and just to put my two cents in.
I'm really drunk right now, so I apologize if this isn't completely coherent.
Cheers,
Will

My coach taught me to hook with my palm facing towards my face, and my arm parallel to the ground. The advantage being that the bicep supports the fist when your palm is facing your body, as opposed to the ground. I've tried both ways, and I find that the palm facing the body works much better than the alternative.
My coach, trained/managed Eric Morel (undefeated super-fly-weight boxing champion), and the USA Olympic Boxing Team for at least one year, so keep that in mind. Our method works. Jones, dude, this is for reference, and just to put my two cents in.
I'm really drunk right now, so I apologize if this isn't completely coherent.
Cheers,
Will

I think it varies from coach to coach. My coach pwns your coach

6 times international chapion, #1 in the USA and world in 1986, and world champion finalist. Also fought proffessionally to become the WBA champion in 1990.

Also, for reference. Your uppercuts, from a boxing standpoint, look like ****. Bring 'em down to your hip and really whip those mothers. Remember, a right uppercut isn't all that different from a right cross, and a left uppercut isn't all that different from a left hook (the main difference is the arm movements, and the timing/effect). Also, extend your punches more. I'm no trainer, I need to see your feet, and more of your hips to comment further.
Cheers,
Will

Also, for reference. Your uppercuts, from a boxing standpoint, look like ****. Bring 'em down to your hip and really whip those mothers. Remember, a right uppercut isn't all that different from a right cross, and a left uppercut isn't all that different from a left hook (the main difference is the arm movements, and the timing/effect). Also, extend your punches more. I'm no trainer, I need to see your feet, and more of your hips to comment further.
Cheers,
Will


boy, your advice on uppercuts is COMPLETELY contrary to all the teachings I've ever had on uppercuts from EVERY instructor I've had. Uppercuts come off the chin, like any other punch. Not from the hip.

I think it varies from coach to coach. My coach pwns your coach

6 times international chapion, #1 in the USA and world in 1986, and world champion finalist. Also fought proffessionally to become the WBA champion in 1990.

I'm not trying to discredit your coach by listing my coache's credentials. All's I'm saying is my coach is a damn fine boxing coach, and a damn fine person. I wouldn't say your coach "pwns" my coach or vice versa; they teach two completely different styles. Besides, how well you perform in a sport has little to do with how good of a trainer you are. I prefer to keep my palm facing my head.
If my replies seem a bit delayed, it's cuz I'm on an especially BAD dial-up.
Cheers,
Will

I have no idea why you're moving the way you're moving. There seems to be a disconnect between the techniques you're throwing out with your hands and your footwork. There are really only a few times, for example, when you coordinate forward movement with forward attacks, IMO. Think about when you would move backwards, to the side, etc. and coordinate your attacks accordingly.

Watch counterpunchers like Roy Jones Jr. to see what they throw when they move in various directions, not to mention how they string combos together.

You'll have to take this with a grain of salt, as I'm a shitty boxer, but these are my impressions.

1. You need to REACH with your jabs. The reason coaches tell you to hit with the last 3 fingers is because you get a better reach that way.

2. Stop turning your head on punches. This leaves you WIDE open for counters that you won't see coming which will result in a quick knock out.

3. When you punch and elbow, step forward and turn your shoulder into it.

4. You need to have a plan. Here you seem to be making up stuff as you go along. See 3-4 moves at a time. That way if you are able to you can fire off quick combos. Don't do the same combos over and over though.

5. Use footwork and explosiveness. Use your strength. Get your heartbeat up. Fire right and left hooks back to back and work on getting back into position for the next hook as quick as possible.

In fact, I'd recommend he shadowbox using JUST his jab for a while
Maybe the best advice yet. That's exactly what a good coach would have you doing.

And don't listen to the guy telling you to throw your uppercuts from the hip. That's the worst advice yet.

Maybe the best advice yet. That's exactly what a good coach would have you doing.

And don't listen to the guy telling you to throw your uppercuts from the hip. That's the worst advice yet.


Hmmm, I don't agree with EVER just focusing SOLELY on 1 technique, it can creat some bad habist and imbalances in the fighting style and the body.

In regards to uppercuts, yes they should come from the hips.
NOT THE HANDS at the hips, but the hips should POWER the uppercut ( along with the legs of course).

Hmmm, I don't agree with EVER just focusing SOLELY on 1 technique, it can creat some bad habist and imbalances in the fighting style and the body.

In regards to uppercuts, yes they should come from the hips.
NOT THE HANDS at the hips, but the hips should POWER the uppercut ( along with the legs of course).
O.k, as for the hips, yes, the power comes from the hips, if that's what he meant. I understood him to say the hands should come from the hips, and I've seen fighters throw uppercuts that way, which is obviously a no, no. If he meant that the hips should be more involved in the uppercuts, then I agree that was good advice.

Most of your better coaches will start you shadowboxing with only throwing a jab. This will continue for a week or so, basically until you've demonstrated that you've gotten it down properly. Then they'll add the cross, etc. This is only for beginners, obviously.

I agree with you about bad habits, but the thing is that whether he's throwing only jabs or several combinations, he's already developing bad habits. Granted he's training himself to string together combos, which is a good thing, but if those combos are all fucked up, as his are, it's a bad thing. The idea is to minimize the amount of bad habits committed to muscle memory by closely monitoring his technique. It's easier to learn good technique that way. That's the theory anyway.

The real solution though for FJ is to get preper coaching. I'm not sure how effectively a person can learn a martial art over the internet.

O.k, as for the hips, yes, the power comes from the hips, if that's what he meant. I understood him to say the hands should come from the hips, and I've seen fighters throw uppercuts that way, which is obviously a no, no. If he meant that the hips should be more involved in the uppercuts, then I agree that was good advice.

Most of your better coaches will start you shadowboxing with only throwing a jab. This will continue for a week or so, basically until you've demonstrated that you've gotten it down properly. Then they'll add the cross, etc. This is only for beginners, obviously.

I agree with you about bad habits, but the thing is that whether he's throwing only jabs or several combinations, he's already developing bad habits. Granted he's training himself to string together combos, which is a good thing, but if those combos are all fucked up, as his are, it's a bad thing. The idea is to minimize the amount of bad habits committed to muscle memory by closely monitoring his technique. It's easier to learn good technique that way. That's the theory anyway.

The real solution though for FJ is to get preper coaching. I'm not sure how effectively a person can learn a martial art over the internet.


In regards to Jabs, you always throw more japs than any other punch when you box, or at least you should, so to add even more focus...well, I personally dont agree.
BUT, like everything else, for some it can be the right thing to do.

If you are gonna focus on the jab, make sure you do both hands ( yes I know, boxing coaches will have a fit), but it will balance out your body.
You wouldn't spend 3 rounds doing nothing but left hooks would you ?