So, where exactly are we in this thread ??

Tae Kwon Do is Koreas version of Karate. It was copied from Japanese Karate. So yes I guess I do teach Korean Karate.

Thank you for parroting my sentence, but you didn't answer my question. Which kwan are you from?

Oh do kwan rules !!

Congratulations on waiting 14 years. So you only got your second degree out of respect for your instructor? Are you saying you didnt have respect for your instructor for the previous 14 years?

I wasn't with this particular instructor for 14 years. I joined his school to learn more about swordsmanship. While I was doing that, he needed help teaching the TKD kid classes. Since my kids were in that class at the time I volunteered. I taught with only one little yellow stitch line in my belt and lo and behold the parents liked me. They didn't question me about my rank and if they did I would have gladly given them my history. It wasn't until a few of his 3rd and 4th dans starting getting pissed because I was showing them more advanced techniques as well as rambling off more history knowledge that my instructor asked me to test for my 2nd dan. So I did. After five years at being with his school, I tested for my 2nd dan the same year I tested for my 1st dan in Kumdo. Wow it was a grueling 45 minute test for a 2nd dan....Yep, I really felt like I accomplished something then. I accomplished pissing away a couple hundred bucks to physically show the world, what I and others who were learning from me already knew. Oh Yay!!!


The "candy stripes" you dont care about, show others (parents/customers) that you have accomplished something in your MA. No they dont make you better but if you are teaching then it puts others at ease about your skill level.

Those stripe are just physical manifestations to stroke your ego. I will admit they are a great marketing ploy. Coming to the parent with a bunch a **** on your belt makes them go "Ooooooooo".


The parents/customers where I am dont want a 1st degree teaching their kids, and if you tell them, well...I dont think testing is necessary as long as I am improving....then what kind of example does that set?


If they don't want a first dan teaching their kids, then you have something very fucked up in your school. We start our senior brown belts teaching, it is part of their requirement for first dan. Granted their is a black belt on the floor watching, but all parents and students are cool with that. If your parents don't have enough confidence in first degree black belt teaching then you should really check your curriculum and see why.

The example that we set is for all the kids to achieve their black belts, of course under 16 can only get Jr. Black belt (4 hour testing) then they can get their adult black belt after they are 16 or older (6 hour testing) . After that, our instructor does it the old fasion way. He watches what you do, see how you teach, see how you practice,etc. Once you have had time in your rank he'll advance you to the next degree. I'm the only black belt in the school that has the candy stripes, simply because I was implanted there from a TKD school. All his BB have just a belt and that is it. Parents seem to be fine with our 1st dans teaching.


We dont train to get belts I agree, however, as a teacher it feel it is necessary to get "candy stripes".

Why? If people come to your school to learn, then they have already intrusted you that you know what you are doing. What purpose does the stripes server? To flash your rank? Each stripe shows a specific measurement of knowledge, or that you knew enough to pass a test.

Oh do kwan rules !!

Jidokwan rules. Ohdokwan drools. :icon_puke

Thanks you! I am not saying that the belt you have is important to your skill level, but in most places it is important to your ability to be an instructor.

You are considered a "master" instructor at 4th dan. Until then you are just an instructor. ITF as well as WTF have 1st dan instructors. If they didn't then then GM's would be forced into kissing their own asses

Bullshit !!

While MoDUCKwan has the nice patch, Okaleedokaleekwon is THE system of Taeoneon-do.

So, where exactly are we in this thread ??

Between lost and nowhere in particular :sleepy4:

Bullshit !!

While MoDUCKwan has the nice patch, Okaleedokaleekwon is THE system of Taeoneon-do.

Ok..you got me there. Moodukkwan definitely have the coolest patches. However it the takeyourdokwan which I am most familiar with. :hijackp:

You see, Ohmygodlookatthesizeofthatdick Kwon, was the "mother" of all TKD systems.

Wong's TaeKwon Do ( WTF)
Iamcanadian TaeKwon Do (ITF)
even Asswipe TaeKwon Do ( ATA)

All have their roots in OhwayOhwayOhwayOhway Kwon do.

You see, Ohmygodlookatthesizeofthatdick Kwon, was the "mother" of all TKD systems.

Wong's TaeKwon Do ( WTF)
Iamcanadian TaeKwon Do (ITF)
even Asswipe TaeKwon Do ( ATA)

All have their roots in OhwayOhwayOhwayOhway Kwon do.

Yes, and the WTF now has its American organization:

U Suck Taekwondo Unioin (USTU)

Yes, and the WTF now has its American organization:

U Suck Taekwondo Unioin (USTU)


Much like the plague, TKD spreads and infectes inncocents.
Damn rats.

Isn't there a vaccine by now?

Isn't there a vaccine by now?

Yes. People who are stuck in the McDojangs can come get 100cc's of reality at Bullshido t.com to cure it. :5zombie:

It seems there are some strains that have developed an immunity.

hey tkdfighter, wanna know something that'll blow your mind. my "real" belt is actually a junior black belt. when i received it i was under 18. and i never got my "real" belt with a stripe on it. and I've had students!