I have never seen any WC groundwork -- which is what this tournament was all about -- but seen plenty of WC stand-up grappling, which is what I think you are talking about when you say that Foshan province WC has stand-up grappling.

Anyway I think the nub of the jist is that while the club was a WC club, they taught BJJ too... make you wonder what the quality of the tournament was like that a club that cross-trained in BJJ could take some honours. BJJ might not be too big in Tasmania?

I have never seen any WC groundwork -- which is what this tournament was all about -- but seen plenty of WC stand-up grappling, which is what I think you are talking about when you say that Foshan province WC has stand-up grappling.?

Yes I agree.




Anyway I think the nub of the jist is that while the club was a WC club, they taught BJJ too... make you wonder what the quality of the tournament was like that a club that cross-trained in BJJ could take some honours. BJJ might not be too big in Tasmania?

You are probably right seeing as its quite remote down there and only a small island state.

I know that most WC does not have any ground fighting but I have to say that some of them do. I know there are those who have added this aspect to thier game since the UFC and MMA growth in popularity. But this is not the case with all wing/weng chun. As a matter of fact some of the pictures of old Weng chun master are of them actually on the ground! of course it's not BJJ but this aspect is not entirely ignored by some Wing/Weng chun lineages.

I've heard this too. That there is a style of WC ground fighting using "3 points of force" but I haven't seen any.

Here is a link to an incredible resource's website. GM Leong has extensive experience training and teaching in Foshan and Hong Kong styles of WC, as well as Tai-Chi, chinese medicine etc. I believe he's also won full-contact tournaments in China, and is a family disciple to Yip Chun.

He's the real deal, an incredible fighter who is very hands on and enjoys sparring. Like, he spars people who walk in off the street and has a great sense of humour while doing it. The more they try to hurt him, the greater the amusement.

I've known quite a few people who have gravitated there from other lineages and styles. He has improved all of their WC and has produced some truly impressive fighters. A friend of mine who is no novice, told me going to that school was the single best MA experience he has ever had.

http://www.grandmasterleong.com/

A Wing Chun school that also teaches Muay Thai is a good idea.

Judging from what you have said, he is probably a very competent fighter, yet there is no excuse for this picture. WC flying side kick? Its all in siu lim tao ... :icon_bigg

http://www.grandmasterleong.com/images/Sifu.jpg

"A young Grandmaster Leong demonstrating the Flying Side Kick."

Antigrappling works. Quick hide this from all the chunners!

This is mind boggling, seasoned jiujitsu practitioners should be able to outdo standup fighters in a grappling tourney...

Judging from what you have said, he is probably a very competent fighter, yet there is no excuse for this picture. WC flying side kick? Its all in siu lim tao ...

give them a couple years, theyll claim that stuff was in Chum Kil - "oh yea the double front kick and sidekick was actually a step and a jump kick"

like their hidden iron palm and grappling moves

eventually they will say that firearm training and how to cook a 5 course meal is also hidden between the futs, bongs, and paks.

Don't confuse McDojos with honest practitioners of systems.

BJJ is just Judo and should be renamed as such. Its misrepresentation to allow it to have its own name!

I've been preaching that since Helio was a zygote.

Ng Mui invented the grappling.

A Wing Chun school that also teaches Muay Thai is a good idea.

Judging from what you have said, he is probably a very competent fighter, yet there is no excuse for this picture. WC flying side kick? Its all in siu lim tao ... :icon_bigg


The guy in the pic has experience in a large number of styles - several kungfu, Wu Shu, Tai Chi and Muay Thai, if not others. I imagine that photo was for a movie or to promote a fight or something like that.