Im not the kungfu expert
Thanks for sharing, i hope your white duck will help you dislodge your head from your anus one day...
JFS USA
8/18/2005 12:03pm,
If I could sing I woudl be in the choir.
Got it.
Hence way the purist idea is FOS.
With the agreed upon definitions in place ... sure. I think it's important to keep in mind that purist by the very bent of their nature and pursuit of activity are anti-traditional. In a more openly violent time they would never survive beyond 1 generation.
Agree. Application is key but part of that is understand the idea and purpose behind the tech if you miss that you can't have variation. (Not aimed at you John just general musing)
Right on point musing. Without a reasonable level of understanding as a foundation a person simply wanders about ... stubs their toe on rocks ... falls off of cliffs ...
I try to do that as well but the individual can still uphoeld the main beliefs of the community that he is apart off.
Back to personal as opposed to collective responsibility. Difficult issue to work out.
I still have the application to join the KKK that was sent to me and my father. WHITE POWER! :5paperbag Somehow I don't think I would be welcomed with open arms to the meetings.
Dunno, I never got an invite ... maybe you got mine by accident :5slick:
You trying to screw up my image! Its EVIL ASIA not decent Asia:thebirdma
Correction: Evil Asia is a decent guy ... in a wickedly evil sort of way. :thefinger
John
JFS USA
8/18/2005 12:16pm,
Good to have you here as well kwan. You and "jay" make a stunning couple.
So, why don't you tell all these fine Bullshido folks about how you have sparred against BJJ, MT, MMA ... and never been defeated in any of your sparring matches? "Panned" was how you put it.
As this particular forum is up for investigating claims how about providing us with the names of all those you defeated? Should be local guys and easy to check out.
I'm not suggesting your claim lacks credibility or any thing like that ... I mean ... after all ... you do have "about" 6 months of Choy Li Fut under your belt. Who is your CLF Sifu?
Maybe the names are on record in Newcastle ... along with the written proof of "jay's" 15 professional boxing matches. You might check there first.
Nice touch posting cooked by you Emails. Goes well with you and "jay" flittering about the Net pretending to be me. Ah yes, imitation, the most sincere form of flattery. Thanks, guys.
Having a hard time getting over posting "... we'll meet you any where even in stevie richards back yard ..." and then having to back down in public big time by hiding all weekend in Newcastle. Bummer ... that must have sucked.
Once again, welcome, and by all means, take the time to read the thread topic, think about it, and then post accordingly. John
...wc principles like blocking is just basic form of crane blocking and its like wc is simplified version of kungfu, no advanced kicks, ...
Please allow me to offer you a bit of unsolicited advice ... get off it. The refinement, or lack thereof, with regard to any sysem - style is made manifest in the indvidual. There is no systemic solution as such.
Whatever you see in cofied form is an information bundle and nothing more. Knowledge is NOT power. Knowledge is potential power ... it must be converted into action. Lot's of people have knowledge of the fact that driving a car while intoxicated is very dangerous and potentially fatal. Yet, every year the slaughter on our highways continues.
You study Fukien White Crane? What sub-system? If you have applied yourself for about 6 months then you are ready to do certain things. First, find a nearby boxing gym. Go talk to the Coach - Trainer. Tell him what you have been doing and ask him if you can join his gym for a few months in order to learn how your KF plays against boxing.
You are there to learn ... not count rounds won - lost. You are going to get your ass handed to you for awhile. Check your ego at the door and endure it. You will find that attempting to hold onto "carved in stone" structures will result in your eating a lot of nasty, sweaty leather. Learn.
Don't sweat the morning after nose full of blood boogers, sore ribs, etc. Take a good, long hot shower in the morning and go about your day. Don't miss classes be they KF or boxing. You got to get out of bed in the morning in order to be a hero.
After you have done the above for a few months ... 3 - 6 ... go to your local College or University and check in with their athletic department. Go to the Wrestling Coach and tell him what you are doing. If insurance concerns keep him from allowing you to work out with his guys then look to on campus wrestling clubs. Can't find any? Go back to the Coach and ask him if will introduce you to his team. Tell them you are looking to learn how your KF meshes with wrestling.
Avoid using language that distills to "How my KF can beat wrestling." You will just piss people off and they might hurt you.
Contrary to popular belief ... formal class time in KF is not where you "learn" KF. It is where you learn what you must work on in order to learn KF. FWC is a small hand ... in total numbers you guys are on par with SPM, Bak Mei and some others.
Chances of you ever getting into a fight with another FWC guy are slim and none.
Regardless, you can't learn in a sterile environment ... you can only acquire certain tools that you can use in order to facilitate learning. John
WingChun Lawyer
8/18/2005 1:34pm,
Bloody hell, that was an excellent post JFS. This
"Whatever you see in cofied form is an information bundle and nothing more. Knowledge is NOT power. Knowledge is potential power ... it must be converted into action. Lot's of people have knowledge of the fact that driving a car while intoxicated is very dangerous and potentially fatal. Yet, every year the slaughter on our highways continues."
and the crosstraining advice were excellent. IŽll still wait for the video of you and EA sparring, but it seems you can be an excellent addition to this site.
Oh my, my, my ... looky what the garbage man left laying around to stink. I'm waiting for YOU to make good on anything you say. "Nice" avatar ... a "special person" are you?
Check with EA after 9/17 ... he's on his way up here. After that, let's see just when your mouth will be loaded and in route ... hmmm ... never is about right.
BTW, this is an A - B conversation ... C your way out of it.
Got something of worth to post on the thread? If not, you're just a troll ... and a coward as well. Got a problem with that? Come see me. John
Damn, I found a response back about 10 pages ago.
First of all, that avatar was designed by Phrost, as a joke. He put it up as my avatar. Not me. So if you are going to be calling anyone 'special', go ahead and take it up with the site owner tough guy.
Second, 9/17 is only a month away. I eagerly await the outcome although it is already preordained. I would wager however you either A) wont show B) talk your way out of it C) continue to talk smack after either A or B.
Third, this thread isn't an A-B conversation. Its a message board. I am free to comment wherever and whenever I feel like it.
Fourth, calling me a coward is kinda funny after the change in your tone towards Asia once you realized you got called. I think the question is do YOU have a problem with what I said you backpeddling you deluded old weasel? Because if you do, come see ME. You sound like a broken record with this crap.
BTW I rather enjoyed the OLD JFS throwing random insults with unsubstantiated claims of invincibility out there. It was sad to see you ***** out and try to make nice and friendly.
WarriorOfLuv
8/18/2005 3:19pm,
Damn, I found a response back about 10 pages ago.
First of all, that avatar was designed by Phrost, as a joke. He put it up as my avatar. Not me. So if you are going to be calling anyone 'special', go ahead and take it up with the site owner tough guy.
Second, 9/17 is only a month away. I eagerly await the outcome although it is already preordained. I would wager however you either A) wont show B) talk your way out of it C) continue to talk smack after either A or B.
Third, this thread isn't an A-B conversation. Its a message board. I am free to comment wherever and whenever I feel like it.
Fourth, calling me a coward is kinda funny after the change in your tone towards Asia once you realized you got called. I think the question is do YOU have a problem with what I said you backpeddling you deluded old weasel? Because if you do, come see ME. You sound like a broken record with this crap.
BTW I rather enjoyed the OLD JFS throwing random insults with unsubstantiated claims of invincibility out there. It was sad to see you ***** out and try to make nice and friendly.
Another war waged!
Yrkoon9: "Yappity slappity blah ... blah ... blah ..."
Oooohhhh ... now I'm getting sleepy ... John
IŽll still wait for the video of you and EA sparring, but it seems you can be an excellent addition to this site.
Fast and furious Counselor. John
I think he's a fuckin nut jobber who throws challenges out like candy, then changes his tune when someone picks up the guantlet. That being said, entertainment like that can be rare so lets all appreciate it while he is still able to post.
Second, 9/17 is only a month away. I eagerly await the outcome although it is already preordained. I would wager however you either A) wont show B) talk your way out of it C) continue to talk smack after either A or B.
"No Good Deed Shall Go Unpunished."
So be it.
Hello Evil Asia, TKDChick and any other "powers that be" that are reading this.
Yrkoon9 has offered a wager and set forth the criteria as noted in his post above.
I accept his wager and suggest the following:
1. The wager is for $20 made payable to Bullshido immediately upon Evil Asia's report on the 9/17 match.
2. The loser of the wager not only agrees to pay the $20 to Bullshido but also accepts being banned for 60 days ... clock starts as soon as Evil Asia posts up.
3. In the event the loser of the wager fails to immediately put $20 in the Bullshido account they are banned forever.
4. If the wager loser balks at paying off the bet as stated and is banned the cost for being allowed to once again become a Bullshido member is $100 ... payable directly to Bullshido.
In the interest of furthering the noble Bullshido Mission Statement I think my proposal is fair and reasonable.
Your decision? John
Give me the 'rules' so to speak of this engagement. As I recalled, you were going to 'take someone's eyes' or someshit? You spew out challenges so frequently I can't remember if that was this one or another.
This gonna be some kinda friendly sparring match where your piss and vinegar got taken out, or is this gonna be a brawl? I am not privy to the details of your match.
Also, the options listed above leave little choice for latitude. What if you show up and nothing happens for whatever reason? Or once the video comes up you begin talking smack again at a later date? Couple of loose ends.
Otherwise I am game, if only to hedge the bet towards your actually manning up instead of punking. $20 is a pitance if I was somehow even partially responsible for ensuring your meeting. But honestly I don't think of it as furthering any mission statements as it is just shutting one mouthy fucker up. Whether it be you or I. And even if it's only for 60 days.
JohnnyCache
8/18/2005 5:10pm,
So no matter how bad jfs gets his ass beat, all he has to do is 1) show up, 2) get beaten, and 3) Not talk **** about getting beaten and Yrkoon leaves the site for three months? Not sure I get that, it's like jfs can win by losing.
Oh I don't know. Paying 20 bucks and having to chill elsewhere for 60 days wouldn't be that big a price to pay. I have the utmost confidence in Asia. My only concern is that he will restrain himself somehwhat to a humiliation beating, and not perform the full service as JFS has promised.
But he hasn't really defined the 'combat engagement' (joke!). His early bravado seems somewhat emaciated. I think when actually confronted he is going to try to talk shop with Asia and defuse it into a sparring match, not the ass stomping he promised just days ago.
Give me the 'rules' so to speak of this engagement.
The ROE are the purview of the constestants ... sideline cheer leaders need not apply. Want to know the ROE? Simple, you know where I am. We're having a Throwdown on 9/11 (See details on TD sub-forum) and EA is here on the 17th. Make either of those dates and we will sort it out between us.
This gonna be some kinda friendly sparring match where your piss and vinegar got taken out, or is this gonna be a brawl? I am not privy to the details of your match.
See above. I'll give you this much ... I have a standing rule in such things. I go as hard as you go.
Also, the options listed above leave little choice for latitude. What if you show up and nothing happens for whatever reason? Or once the video comes up you begin talking smack again at a later date? Couple of loose ends.
Christ Almighty, Dude, you want some cheese to go with that whine? What kind of lame brained BS is that? You state a wager and then snivel about "loose ends" ... open mouth insert foot. You posted up now put up or STFU.
$20 is a pitance if I was somehow even partially responsible for ensuring your meeting.
Cool ... I hate cheap people and it seems you do as well. Let's make it real. $200 is the base wager and the penalty for balking is now $1000. After all, my first offer was just a "pitance."
You don't get it do you? I neither bluff nor back down ... ever. As for "getting my ass beat" ... you have no idea who you are talking to. No matter where you are I've all ready been there and gone.
But honestly I don't think of it as furthering any mission statements as it is just shutting one mouthy fucker up. Whether it be you or I. And even if it's only for 60 days.
You should not use the word "honestly" lest you burn in Hell for blasphemy. John
My only concern is that he will restrain himself somehwhat to a humiliation beating, and not perform the full service as JFS has promised.
You know the old saying ... "If you want something done right you have to do it yourself." So ... you are putting down your Pom-Poms and coming off the sidelines when? John
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