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Shams
7/31/2005 1:00am,
Ok so I got into another street fight last night.I woun't say how it started but I will say it was totally my fault and the information I am providing is to put forward this realization I've having.This is not to boost my ego or anything of that sort.

Me(5'8 160 lb) VS Him(5'11 lighter build than me)

Ok direct to the fight.I punched the guy in the nose.He moved back (but the hit landed) a little and came at me . I kept my guard up but he swang and hit me an inch above my left ear (my hand were level with my ear) and a shockwave ran through my head. Thats when all my MA skills jumped in (I was fighting totally like a brute till now).He threw a jab . I swayed to the side and hooked the back of his head . He threw another hook but a front short thrust kick pushed him away before it landed .He shot at me and we were on the ground .He tried pushing his index finger into my left eye but I just had to turn my head to avoid it (But it still hurt a little).I rolled onto his back as he was trying to dig his nails into my face (still got the scratches) and bite any part of my body he could find close to his teeth.I got him in a rear choke hold and he became totally under my control . Two girls we both knew cried out for us to stop .I yelled out I would if he would.But he said he'd kill me once he gets out of the hold(which was perfectly secure and unescapable).The girls thought I'd choke him to death so they got hold of my arm and freed him ...........End of fight


Now for what I have realized........Of all the one on one real fights I had all but one had ended with me or the other guy in giving a choke hold or ground and pound.I am a karateka and mainly utilize my standup techniques but I see strikes dont end a fight it just aggrivates the other guy into fighting harder.When adrinaline is pumping there is less pain and the pain from most strikes do not register.The only strikes that can take a guy totally down is a VERY well placed punch or kick (which usually misses) or the elbow and knee.I think I'll HAVE to take up judo or BJJ and lay off the striking business after I get my blackbelt. Man everytime I open my mouth my head hurts (from the hook last night) . The other guy I hear got his nose totally reddened and puffed up from the first jab.

Poop Loops
7/31/2005 1:12am,
Good job. You're badass. Oh no, wait, you're a moron and an asshole.

For some reason hearing about streetfights just isn't as satisfying when the person telling the story is the one at fault.

Other reasons why you are a moron:

Striking doesn't work on t3h str33t. That's new. Tell that to boxers who do it for a living. It's probably because you just suck at striking and so did the other guy.

You need to get a black belt before you quit karate. A noble endeavour! "I need a black piece of cloth to tell me I am good, even thoug I know I am not and have no interest in being good."

PL

Year Zero
7/31/2005 1:16am,
Striking CAN suck on the street if you break your hands, which is why boxers wear gloves in the first place. Elbows would do a lot more damage and let you close distance to a clinch.

But this IS a great story when you remember all those Kung Fu guys who say: I'd beat those grapplers if they would let us scratch, eye-gouge, and BITE!!!


Apparently not.

JohnnyCache
7/31/2005 1:21am,
Hee. I bet it was like a dogfight with pomeranians.

fanatical
7/31/2005 1:26am,
Ok so I got into another street fight last night.I woun't say how it started but I will say it was totally my fault and the information I am providing is to put forward this realization I've having.This is not to boost my ego or anything of that sort.

Me(5'8 160 lb) VS Him(5'11 lighter build than me)

Ok direct to the fight.I punched the guy in the nose.He moved back (but the hit landed) a little and came at me . I kept my guard up but he swang and hit me an inch above my left ear (my hand were level with my ear) and a shockwave ran through my head. Thats when all my MA skills jumped in (I was fighting totally like a brute till now).He threw a jab . I swayed to the side and hooked the back of his head . He threw another hook but a front short thrust kick pushed him away before it landed .He shot at me and we were on the ground .He tried pushing his index finger into my left eye but I just had to turn my head to avoid it (But it still hurt a little).I rolled onto his back as he was trying to dig his nails into my face (still got the scratches) and bite any part of my body he could find close to his teeth.I got him in a rear choke hold and he became totally under my control . Two girls we both knew cried out for us to stop .I yelled out I would if he would.But he said he'd kill me once he gets out of the hold(which was perfectly secure and unescapable).The girls thought I'd choke him to death so they got hold of my arm and freed him ...........End of fight


Now for what I have realized........Of all the one on one real fights I had all but one had ended with me or the other guy in giving a choke hold or ground and pound.I am a karateka and mainly utilize my standup techniques but I see strikes dont end a fight it just aggrivates the other guy into fighting harder.When adrinaline is pumping there is less pain and the pain from most strikes do not register.The only strikes that can take a guy totally down is a VERY well placed punch or kick (which usually misses) or the elbow and knee.I think I'll HAVE to take up judo or BJJ and lay off the striking business after I get my blackbelt. Man everytime I open my mouth my head hurts (from the hook last night) . The other guy I hear got his nose totally reddened and puffed up from the first jab.

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Shams
7/31/2005 1:34am,
Yes it was my fault I AM an asshole for that but what the heck,I just wanted my point across the room.

Shams
7/31/2005 1:40am,
Hee. I bet it was like a dogfight with pomeranians.

Again you come out with a sentence that is far beyond my scope of understanding.You should join a litrature forum man , would do pretty good at it .
:zicon_bat

JohnnyCache
7/31/2005 1:48am,
Well, a dog fight is a fight between two dogs. People release a pair of maddened dogs, they fight, people bet on their favorite. It is normally done with a pair of intimidating dogs - german shepards, pit bulls, presas, rotweillers, bulldogs, etc.

Pomeranians are a breed of tiny, yappy, fluffy dog kept as lap pets. When agitated, they yelp loudly and thrash around, but ultimately, one would only do well in a dog fight if it was fighting another pomerainian, or a similar small, fluffy, yappy dog.

A real fighting dog would simply bite one in half in a single snap.

Edit:
Presa
http://www.sanderskennels.com/02-19-05%20060%20(2).gif

Pomeranian:

http://www.nextdaypets.com/directory/breeds/images/1100206.jpg

Shams
7/31/2005 1:50am,
Good job. You're badass. Oh no, wait, you're a moron and an asshole.

For some reason hearing about streetfights just isn't as satisfying when the person telling the story is the one at fault.

Other reasons why you are a moron:

Striking doesn't work on t3h str33t. That's new. Tell that to boxers who do it for a living. It's probably because you just suck at striking and so did the other guy.

You need to get a black belt before you quit karate. A noble endeavour! "I need a black piece of cloth to tell me I am good, even thoug I know I am not and have no interest in being good."

PL


Striking does work into the streets . I just said it does not stop the fight as faster as a takedown and submission stratagy.I already am lamenting over me starting the fight :sad5: what do I have to do to prove myself sorry. I do not inted to quit karate after getting a black belt .Its just that you get to do a lot of full-contact sparring after getting a bb much easily (that is without supervision).And if I stop training now I may never get a belt and go onto full contact and always have to have senior supervision in order to do full contact. :sad5:

JohnnyCache
7/31/2005 1:54am,
You want to prove yourself sorry? Stop getting in pissy little fights in the dirt.

If you don't, you'll build a karma, and the day you're ready for full contact and you've got the big fight, some guy you slapped around 5 years before will stick a knife in you.

Shams
7/31/2005 1:56am,
Well, a dog fight is a fight between two dogs. People release a pair of maddened dogs, they fight, people bet on their favorite. It is normally done with a pair of intimidating dogs - german shepards, pit bulls, presas, rotweillers, bulldogs, etc.

Pomeranians are a breed of tiny, yappy, fluffy dog kept as lap pets. When agitated, they yelp loudly and thrash around, but ultimately, one would only do well in a dog fight if it was fighting another pomerainian, or a similar small, fluffy, yappy dog.

A real fighting dog would simply bite one in half in a single snap.]

Sorry but are you trying to say you are a big dog and we here are small fluffy dogs.I see you have a lot of pride in yourself,I dont care of your "alpha male or dog" ego.But anyways you got my respect for being funny keep it up :thumbsup: :pottytrai

alex
7/31/2005 1:56am,
ever thought that the reason your punches arent effective is because you hit like a bitch?

and as one little fella to another (I am about your size) maybe you should lay off starting fights with random people. you are too small for that **** and its only a matter of time before you fight the wrong guy and his 250 pound 6'4 mate uses you as a loin cloth.

Shams
7/31/2005 1:59am,
You want to prove yourself sorry? Stop getting in pissy little fights in the dirt.

If you don't, you'll build a karma, and the day you're ready for full contact and you've got the big fight, some guy you slapped around 5 years before will stick a knife in you.

I was thinking the same thing .....For once I agree with (and understand) you. :notworthy

Poop Loops
7/31/2005 2:03am,
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Sorry but are you trying to say you are a big dog and we here are small fluffy dogs.I see you have a lot of pride in yourself,I dont care of your "alpha male or dog" ego.But anyways you got my respect for being funny keep it up :thumbsup: :pottytrai

Actually, he called both you and the guy you fought the little dog. So it looked like two little dogs going at it, lots of flash, no real damage.

PL

Shams
7/31/2005 2:03am,
ever thought that the reason your punches arent effective is because you hit like a bitch?

and as one little fella to another (I am about your size) maybe you should lay off starting fights with random people. you are too small for that **** and its only a matter of time before you fight the wrong guy and his 250 pound 6'4 mate uses you as a loin cloth.

When you do get into a real fight punches do tend to get weak.I am sorry.

feedback
7/31/2005 2:05am,
You either need to put more power into your strikes, or be more accurate, preferably both. Training for that makes the difference between hitting them on the nose, and hitting them on the chin; hitting them in the head, and hitting them on their ear or jaw.