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Kungfoolss
6/28/2005 2:06am,
Blade fells martial arts warrior in War of the Roses

By Michael Horsnell and Liz Chong
June 28, 2005

http://www.bedfordtoday.co.uk/getedimage.aspx?ImageID=275653

A BATTLE re-enactment enthusiast was seriously ill in hospital last night after being hit in the face by a replica sword during a “living history” event.
The injured man, named as Kieran Robb (http://www.dawnduellists.org.uk/gallery/training/kieran_donal.php), was struck during the restaging of the Battle of Northampton. The original battle was between Yorkists and Lancastrians on July 10, 1460, during the Wars of the Roses. Spears, axes, swords and pikes were used during the mock conflict by 150 followers of the Medieval Siege Society at the Twinwoods Arena at Clapham, Bedfordshire, on Saturday.


Mr Robb, 30, from Edinburgh, was taken to Bedford Hospital with a severe head injury. He was later transferred to Addenbrooke’s Hospital in Cambridge, where he was said to be in a critical condition yesterday. He is a martial arts expert and a family man who had travelled to Bedfordshire from Scotland with a group called The Company of Dawn Duellists, who are based in Edinburgh. They were fighting on the side of the Lancastrians. Bedfordshire Police appealed for anyone among hundreds of spectators who might have filmed the battle to contact them. Detective Sergeant John Walters said: “Although the incident is not being treated as malicious, it is important police have as complete a record as possible. The other man involved has co-operated fully with the police but is obviously very distressed and shocked.”

Jim Marsh, who was taking part in the re-enactment, said that a glancing blow felled Mr Robb. He said: “In all the years I have been involved in battle re-enactments, it is the first accident I have seen. It is safer than Sunday league football or rugby. The ambulance was here very quickly and we hope he will make a full recovery.” The society, the largest medieval re-enactment group in Britain, said later that its safety code required followers to demonstrate their ability to handle weapons safely.

David Smith, who organised the Medieval Fayre, said that Mr Robb, a nurse, was struck in the face by a deflected sword blade. He described him as a competent and experienced swordsman. “He was trying to block a blow from the man he was fighting, but the other guy’s steel sword bounced off his weapon and hit him in the face. It was a shock to everyone, not least his opponent, who was in tears about it.” Paramedics in attendance at the event immediately treated his injury. Other medieval enthusiasts were dismayed at the accident. Jenny Maydon, spokeswoman for the Medieval Siege Society, said that Mr Robb and the man who struck him were strangers.

Another enthusiast, who did not give his name, said that he had witnessed the loss of a hand, eyes and the end of a man’s nose during 20 years of attending mock battles.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1671878,00.html

danno
6/28/2005 2:45am,
ah, poor bugger.

Wounded Ronin
6/28/2005 10:26am,
They were using live weapons!?

JohnnyCache
6/28/2005 12:41pm,
Unsharpened live weapons, usually. They'll still leave a hell of a mark if you get them going fast.

Tiffer
6/28/2005 1:14pm,
The live steel guys are a little bit unhinged, at least in my opinion. The weapons are usually dulled down, but injuries still happen; mass combat like this is a scrum, and **** happens in the scrum. That guy who "has never seen an accident" probably hasn't been to many events; people get hurt all the time, though they generally only need stitches (not so much an ICU).

They rely on a system wherein you have to trust the total stranger across the line not to do anything stupid. Strangely, this doesn't always work. Why not just join the SCA? All the fun-loving pile-ons, worst case scenario you break some bones. There's only so much another person can do when you're in full armor and fighting with rattan, as opposed to period clothing and 3 feet of slightly dulled steel (armor optional).

danno
6/28/2005 6:03pm,
my younger brother is into this stuff, and told me about this idiot who just wouldn't admit when he had been hit on the field. one time he was charging with a sword at someone who had a spear (it had some kind of flat end), and got hit square in the stomach. he pretended this didn't happen, and charged again. this time the fellow with the spear hit him harder. the dickhead came in again, got hit even harder, was knocked on his arse, then gets up and says "bloody uneven ground!" and keeps going.

daGorilla
6/29/2005 4:02pm,
my younger brother is into this stuff, and told me about this idiot who just wouldn't admit when he had been hit on the field. one time he was charging with a sword at someone who had a spear (it had some kind of flat end), and got hit square in the stomach. he pretended this didn't happen, and charged again. this time the fellow with the spear hit him harder. the dickhead came in again, got hit even harder, was knocked on his arse, then gets up and says "bloody uneven ground!" and keeps going.

Clearly, this fellow cheated by failing to properly declare his forcefield.

That would have at least given his opponents proper time to ready and declare their forcefieled-piercing weapons.

-daGorilla

FingerorMoon?
6/29/2005 6:20pm,
I don't get it ?
If the weapons are all blunt, doesn't that mean they are just like big steel baseball bats ?
I'm shocked being smacked on the head by one of those things could cause injury !

Poop Loops
6/29/2005 10:55pm,
Baseball bats don't kill people, people kill people.

And guns.

PL

pauli
7/01/2005 12:38am,
i hate it when people kill guns. it makes me sad.

Zendetta
7/01/2005 1:20pm,
Heh Heh.

Should have used the LIGHTNING BOLT!!! LIGHTNING BOLT!!!!

daGorilla
7/01/2005 2:19pm,
Heh Heh.

Should have used the LIGHTNING BOLT!!! LIGHTNING BOLT!!!!

Damn you. I wanted to say that.

-daGorilla

LLL
7/02/2005 5:25pm,
Maybe they should practice real martial arts?
Or stay away from them?

Cato
7/02/2005 6:56pm,
I feel too old for that sort of thing, but it sounds like fun! Except having ones head smashed in.

Anna Kovacs
7/02/2005 7:04pm,
Thread title is misleading. Steel reenactment groups are not "Practitioners of historical european martial arts". They often have no concern for whats historical or martial outside of the asthetics of it, they have fun doing their thing, but it's not the same as what WMA people do.

Tiffer
7/03/2005 12:58am,
I largely agree. They aren't HACA or the like by a longshot. I think the SCA is approaching practicing a martial art, at least certain factions within the organization (some of the Texas, Missouri and Oaklahoma baronies come to mind). Most of the SCA and HACA guys I know also practice an actual martial art in addition to being stick-jocks; live-steel, not so much.