So either this is a really sweet way to do a heel hook, or I am just reinforcing what a newb I am by not knowing this in the first place. Previously, when I went for a heel hook, if it was on my opponent's right leg, my left leg would swing over, but I never laced it under right next to my right foot to get a hook that allows me to stay on better during rolls. Huge newb mistake? Or is this just a question of choice?

The more the limb is "immobilised" the better to put ANY lock/submission on it.
Common sense.

Lacing the leg over puts more pressure on your opponents knee. You can do this with a straight ankle lock as well to put sideways pressure on the knee. Whichever submission you do, when you put the leg over and then under you increase the likelyhood of a knee injury exponentially. This leg position does not allow your opponent to turn out easily.

I was shown this way of applying leglocks by Oleg and Ruas who endorsed it highly.

Name dropper. (j/k wish I was you). :)

Gringo Grande

Those are the two guys that influenced my leglocks. Both of them are extremely brutal with them. You tap quickly and often.

I do not claim to be a leglock expert, but IMHO those two guys are. Strangely they had 2 completely different methods of application but both emphasized the over and under interlocking of your outside leg.

A few years ago I worked out for about 8 months with a sombo club. With my background in Judo, I was totally unprepared for any leg locks. I was amazed at how effective they were and how easily they were able to apply them on me (at least for the first few weeks). It reminded me of transitioning from wrestling to judo, and always exposing my arms in the beginning.

For what it's worth, I was taught to always immobilize the leg.

Lacing the leg over puts more pressure on your opponents knee. You can do this with a straight ankle lock as well to put sideways pressure on the knee. Whichever submission you do, when you put the leg over and then under you increase the likelyhood of a knee injury exponentially. This leg position does not allow your opponent to turn out easily.

I was shown this way of applying leglocks by Oleg and Ruas who endorsed it highly.



Pffft, "Oleg" and "Ruas"- what kind of a names are they for grapplers? :icon_wink

Same advice goes for toeholds. You gotta keep the leg bent and immobilized otherwise they can easily spin out.

here's a vid illustrating the isolation of the knee and the consequences. It makes me cringe everytime I see it.

http://www.rmata.com/video_shamrock_reverse_HH.ht ml (http://www.rmata.com/video_shamrock_reverse_HH.html)

Leglocks scare me.

here's a vid illustrating the isolation of the knee and the consequences. It makes me cringe everytime I see it.

http://www.rmata.com/video_shamrock_reverse_HH.ht ml (http://www.rmata.com/video_shamrock_reverse_HH.html)

Leglocks scare me.

He had it, but fully cranked it anyway. Very uncool sportsmanship, in my opinion.

Getting your foot over and inside the leg further immobilizes the leg and allows the attacker to keep defender from extending(locking out) the leg which makes breaking it easier.
HOWEVER, If my left leg goes over your right and between your legs, ending up on the floor outside your left leg I must be very ready to rerstract my leg as I have given you a very nasty counterlock.
One can reach a hand through under the ankle go palm to palm and kick ones bottom leg down and straight damaging the ankle of the leg weaving inside.
This is why I would rather put the sole of my foot on the bottom leg rather than putting my sole on the floor.

haha Frank Shamrock is such a punk. I love him


I think that was ken

It's all about figure fouring the leg.

I think I just lost a lot of respect for Shamrock. :(

nah, that was frankie.
that was a sick heel hook.
Guys, also remember that sometimes the adrenalin just kicks in..that could of happened.
But prolly not ;)

"Same advice goes for toeholds. You gotta keep the leg bent and immobilized otherwise they can easily spin out."

Generally.But there are exceptions.When I used to have a heel and the leg locked out I'd release the toes,palm the heel with my far arm and jerk it to the side.
This was back in the brief period after me and my friends had learned leglocks, but we hadn't all been maimed in them yet.