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Bird
6/09/2005 7:40pm,
If anyone can give me some info on Chris Bissett and his style of Jiu-Jitsu, there's a school in town that teaches that style, I'd appreciate it.

Bizzaro Root
6/09/2005 8:11pm,
http://combatjiujitsunorth.tripod.com/frontpage.html
http://www.combatjiujitsu.com/


looks like a traditional jiu jitsu thats gone new age and added the m.m.a. curriclum. overall its doesnt seem to bullshido, and doesnt seem bad. check it out and tell us how the first class is.

Bird
6/09/2005 8:27pm,
I'm going try and get there this weekend and try it out, if this damn cold clears up. I don't know much about Jiu-Jitsu, so I've been all over the internet on this one. I've only got a bit of Aikido training to go on.

Bizzaro Root
6/09/2005 8:30pm,
just go with an open mind, then come back and give us a write up on exactly what you did.
like if you spared, how was the warm up, what moves did you practice etc....

Cullion
6/10/2005 7:11am,
Did anybody else notice that the combatjiujitsu site has a picture of two guys doing the WC Chi Sau exercise in the top right corner ?

Bird
6/10/2005 7:12am,
Did anybody else notice that the combatjiujitsu site has a picture of two guys doing the WC Chi Sau exercise in the top right corner ?

What does that mean?

Bird
6/10/2005 7:46am,
...... nevermind.... I figured it out.....But as far as I know the guy on the left in the pic was a guest the school brought in, but I'm not 100%. I'll definitlely ask about it when I check out a class.

elipson
6/17/2005 5:32pm,
Bird, what town do you live in? I train in a Bissett school and have been for four years, although we've changed the name.

Each school goes its own way to a good degree, Chris Bissett doesn't teach at any of them anymore. Most of the instructors are military guys or ex-RCMP. All the schools are very well rounded with a lot of cross training.

The info that they have posted of Bissett is the real deal, actually, those pages barely scrape the surface. You wouldn't believe half the stories I've heard about Chris Bissett. here's another link about his resume. http://www.escape.ca/~rwilliam/headof.html
I'm sure a lot of this stuff could be verified if one was ambitious enough to track it down. Last I heard he was living in Honduras though. Most of the instructors have BB's in other systems, such as TKD, Arnis, JKD. At my school there is a lot of cross training. If self-defence is your thing, this is the most straight forward way to do it, IMHO.

Bird
6/17/2005 6:47pm,
I'm in Winnipeg, I talked to the instructor but I didn't get up there yet. But I did find a couple places that are much closer. One is Kyoshukin, and the other is BJJ taught by Rodrigo Munduruca, they seem to compete a lot and have had one fighter get to the UFC. I still have to give the BJJ class a try. I think it'll be a tough choice between the two.

elipson
6/19/2005 4:01pm,
I think the instructor in Winnipeg is called Manny (Manuel)? He's got a lot of experience, bouncing and training law enforcement and that kind of thing. My head instructor was his training partner, we hear a lot of stories about them back in Winnipeg. He's got a BB in Arnis, and I think TKD, as well as JJ. The bissett club will give you the most rounded training, but of course that's my very biased opinion :D

OldGuy
7/26/2005 11:40pm,
What a load of Crap. If you read the resume of this guy you would think he is James bond. Chris Bisset did a couple of unpaid seminars for the RCMP. Everything else is a bunch of bull when it comes to it. As far as his instructors being ex RCMP, I find that suspect. When it said that the guy in Winnipeg was a training instructor for the Law enforcement Academy!!! To my knowledge it's a private school and has nothing to do with the police. Also Canadian Citizens don't do security at embasys in Ottawa no two ways about it.


Chris has served overseas as a Driver/Bodyguard with the Saudi-Arabian and Japanese Embassies in Ottawa". This statement does not even make sense .
Why does it not say where he got his BB or through what association.

I'm not saying the guy does not know his stuff with Jui jitsu . Let's just be real.

MarkAY
5/29/2006 2:07pm,
OldGuy:

Chris Bissett was not a civilian during his time in Ottawa, as far as I am aware. He was a captain with the Canadian Airforce, and currently owns the Bissett Protection Group.

Manuel Ruiz is the chief self defense instructor for the Law Enforcement and Security Training Academey of Canada. He's also been the primary self defense instructor for many of the Band(reserves) Police Agencies in Manitoba.

Ole Frederikson is another black belt at the Winnipeg club. Ole is currently in the Canadian Airforce, where he instructs Survival, Evasion, and Resistance to Interrogation.

We also have more then a few members of the Winnipeg Police Service in our club, as well as many from the different factions of the military.

If you have any doubts about the authenticity of our members, feel free to pay us a visit.

Bird:
I've been going to the Winnipeg club since 1999. It's an excellent club, with many knowledgable instructors and students. The all the popularity of MMA, there's a bit more grappling instruction going on then there used to be, but it's still a self defense school first and foremost.

If you go down, you can take advantage of a free first class. If you have trouble paying the monthly fee, you can feel free to talk to Sensei Manuel, who's more then reasonable. When I was still in High School, I paid for my classes by sweeping the mats and doing odd jobs for him.

It's a little hard to find the club at the moment. It's currently out of a renovated old Church on Maryland Avenue.

Andrew Green
5/29/2006 2:23pm,
Bird, Seen some of the Bissett stuff, different people have different takes on it, some are just, as above, personality things with Chris Bissett. There was a BJJ black belt teaching there not too long ago, don't know if that is still the case though. Anything in particular you are looking for? There's a lot of good stuff in Winnipeg.

Bird
5/30/2006 4:19pm,
Bird, Seen some of the Bissett stuff, different people have different takes on it, some are just, as above, personality things with Chris Bissett. There was a BJJ black belt teaching there not too long ago, don't know if that is still the case though. Anything in particular you are looking for? There's a lot of good stuff in Winnipeg.

I took kyokushin last year which was great, killer workouts, but didn't have time once school started up and the baby arrived :) . I was planning on going back to kyokushin, but are there any schools for MMA, or other disciplines, you'd recommend looking at? Thanks for the replies guys.

Bird
5/30/2006 4:23pm,
OldGuy:



Bird:
I've been going to the Winnipeg club since 1999. It's an excellent club, with many knowledgable instructors and students. The all the popularity of MMA, there's a bit more grappling instruction going on then there used to be, but it's still a self defense school first and foremost.

If you go down, you can take advantage of a free first class. If you have trouble paying the monthly fee, you can feel free to talk to Sensei Manuel, who's more then reasonable. When I was still in High School, I paid for my classes by sweeping the mats and doing odd jobs for him.

It's a little hard to find the club at the moment. It's currently out of a renovated old Church on Maryland Avenue.

Thanks for the info. That school is a little bit of a pain to get to from here, damn buses. But if I get a chance I'll check it out.

MarkAY
5/31/2006 10:14pm,
<quote>I took kyokushin last year which was great, killer workouts, but didn't have time once school started up and the baby arrived :) . I was planning on going back to kyokushin, but are there any schools for MMA, or other disciplines, you'd recommend looking at? Thanks for the replies guys.</quote>

I checked out Munduruca Martial Arts today at the request of a buddy of mine. It seems to be a pretty good school. I attended a traditional Brazillian Jiu Jitsu class, which proved to be an excellent workout. The instructors there all really seemed to know what they are doing, and I know Rodrigo Munduruca has a very solid reputation.

I'm going to go back for a few more classes, and check out their No Gi and MMA classes and see what I think.

It's a lot different from the Bissett School.

A good break down of the Bissett School is about:

80% Close Quarters stand up grappling, focusing on clinches, teardowns, kickbacks, hipthrows, wristlocks, etc.

10% Stand up striking, which is mostly elbow strikes and knee's. There's usually kicking drills at the start of each class, but they don't feature predominately in the actual techniques you learn.

10% Ground grappling, You don't learn even a fraction of the moves you'd learn in a BJJ school, but there's more dirty tricks. For example, downward elbows to the head or other sensitive areas are fine. So are trachea chokes, eye gouges, open handed chokes, and pressure points. (Obviously, we don't hardcore gauge someone's eyes in class, but we learn how, and practice with slow, gradual pressure.)


The Munduruca Class I went down to today was 100% grappling, but there was a lot to it. Even this first class I learned a few moves I didn't know, and their teaching style is excellent. It's also different from the Groundwork in Bissett, because there is so much more variety. Where in Bissett, you'll learn only the most basic sweeps/reversals; in Munduruca you learn many, many different ways to counter from the different positions.

I also like the way they instruct, because they show you a few moves, let you practice for a few moments, and then you actually roll with a couple of people and try to work in what you've just practiced. It really helps things stick with your memory.

They do, however, frown upon the more damaging techniques. After failing to get a rear naked choke on someone, I instead slipped on a rear, forearm trachea choke and the instructor was not impressed.
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I won't say which school I think is better, because a) I've only been to ONE of Munduruca's classes, and b) they are both very different in theory and in practice, and a fair comparison isn't possible. They are both very good at the way they choose to teach.

If you're more interested in MMA, I'd probably suggest you check out Munduruca Martial Arts. You'll get a lot more out of it, and since a lot of MMA fighters actually train there, you'll get some more expert advice.

Bissett, which is Jishin Ryu Jiu Jitsu, is more self defense, streetfight oriented.