Yeoman, Chica's answer was correct in regards to the answer that "it cuts off someone's energy"...but it was also bad from a sexual standpoint, as the energy from each person's groin was crossing each other's energy paths accprding to TYK.

Everything was about "Energy" as she considered herself a Grandmaster in Ki Energy....but in retrospect most of these things also served as great tools for conditioning. And yes, we were all severly reprimanded for not abiding by these "energy rules".

I have serious suspicion that the single line written by "SarahAlexKim" may have actually been TYK herself. The way she singled a few of us out and the way she wrote only one line to cover her lack of english skills, was to me a great clue that this was her way of trying to talk to us direclty in obviously a very indirect and manipulative way again.

The so called marriages within the cult and the attendant sex must have been a joke. From what Chicabonita wrote about not touching shoulders and heads, I can only imagine that foreplay was forbidden. It was probably "wham bam, thank you ma'am" and nothing else. No tenderness, no afterglow, or any of the normal things that come with sex, with or without love.

As far as Chicabonita being reprimanded by her mother for touching her shoulders, I can only say that her mother was so conditioned by TYK that she could not show warmth and affection without a lot of constraints. As a normal child, I hugged my mother a lot, and it was comforting to be enveloped in the warmth of that embrace. I didn't suffer any ill effects from the mixing of energies either. Chicabonita and her mother do have the same energy, because of the birth connection. That cannot be erased.

Concerning the castration incident -

From the description, it seems to me that this was an orchestrated event. How convenient that she had three kitchen knives at the ready to throw in front of them and then order them to start cutting. I think she planned this farce for dramatic effect, as another way of reenforcing her power and control, and also reassuring herself that she was still the master. No male is going to cut off his penis, no way, but the effect on them must have been so shocking as to keep them in fear for a long time.

This, along with Rossanna's revelations about Adam being clobbered by TYK while driving because he had some amorous flirtations with other women BEFORE he became involved with her tells me she is insanely jealous of each and every person that has even small successes outside of her control. No wonder Chicabonita was kept from participating in a photo shoot, she might have gained some recognition. No wonder she keeps everyone within the COL compound when they're not working at LWS. She doesn't want them to have any contact with the outside world and see what opportunities lie beyond. No wonder she breaks up families - they stick together through thick and thin, and may even have a negative opinion of her.

TYK is absolutely alone. She surrounds herself with people that agree with her, even if they're lying through their teeth. Yes, fear is a factor also. She has them convinced they will fail miserably if they leave her. But like God, who it is said, is lonely, she too is lonely, and there is no one she can communicate with on an equal basis, because she is God in her own world. So she contents herself with the presence of lesser beings and watches them, like actors on a stage, perform for her benefit.

I have to agree in that the four of us were listed for a reason. I don't think Sarah would have singled us out. That would be the work of TYK.

There are many people that post here that have strong opinions against TYK, stronger than jdms, ryan, clare and myself. Ronin wrote up in red ink that she is a fat whore. That's a strong statement, why doesn't TYK ask him a couple of questions ?

I feel that we are the most recent people that left COL that are identifiable up here on this forum and that is why we are being singled out.

I would be happy to answer any direct questions from TYk also. Perhaps with my experience I could give her some ojective advice or constructive criticism.

I'm here to help, for both sides. Only by dialogue can we reach understanding.

Herlesson, she is the Ki Energy Master because she said so. And yes she feels that giving energy is a good thing, only if it is her energy.

It's not that she didn't care about bad sexual energy. She just felt that everyone should be so lucky to sleep with her. Those were her words to me back in 1997.

She used to tell us that she should teach a class on how to have good sex. She probably got her suggestions from her porno collection. I heard she used to watch Debbie Does Dallas a lot. Is that true ? By the way, wasn't that from the 1980s with all the big hair and big fake nails ? She did tell us once or twice that she watched a "sexual education" video, but ended up turning it off because she was so disgusted. haha, yeah RIGHT !!!

All these years she acted like she was celibate like her students, and that sex was only to be had every once in a while.

:sex:

Debbie Does Dallas is an old old video - I saw it once, as well as Deep Throat. There are many other porn videos, which I watch occasionally (put that in my journal entry). I find it all interesting, and I would suggest some others for her to watch. Try a little variety - like "Life in the Fat Lane", or the one with that drag queen Divine, or something kinky. I don't know what your tastes run to TYK, but contact me through one of your "watchers" and I'll send you a list, and also suggest you visit Good Vibrations online.
:ky:


Yeoman
Tenth Dan - Yo Man Do
"so easy, even a cave man can do it"

How do you know about norcal sex shops?

One thing,I think is important to know about Kim, is that she truly believes her lies. I know a couple of pathological people, and they all really live their shtick. Kim is so deep into her BS, the only way she would ever believe anything else would be if someone deprogrammed her.

How do you know about norcal sex shops?

I've been to SF - interesting place to visit. Not only Good Vibrations, but Ghirardelli Square, Chinatown, The Castro district, etc. Wouldn't want to live there though - too expensive and I'd worry about when the Big One (earthquake) would hit.

A full bow to me aka "rebirth" means putting both hands together, going down on your knees (while hands are together) and then as you are bowing, you are putting your hands and head down to the floor.

In simpler terms think of a Muslim during prayer in his bowing position on the rug. That is it looks like.


I've never seen or heard of this in any dojo or dojang, nor any meditation center I've visited. I think the only time I saw anything equivalent was in "Seven Years in Tibet", when the new Dalai Lama was being installed. His followers believe him to be the reincarnation of The Buddha.

So I guess she really has put herself on a pedestal. :bowdown:

One thing,I think is important to know about Kim, is that she truly believes her lies. I know a couple of pathological people, and they all really live their shtick. Kim is so deep into her BS, the only way she would ever believe anything else would be if someone deprogrammed her.

Yeah, there's even some people who head countries or religions that believe their lies

What type of dialog do you think they would be open to? None. For one thing they won't put anything of substance into writing. It might come back and bite them in the butt. We just need to understand, they are not normal, they don't act normal, and they don't do what most people do. tyk has mase everyone do what she tells them to do. It is hard to accept when you know that there is a way of working things out, but not as long as they are w ith tyk. Open dialog isn't even available to a mother and a daughter. I do wish she could speak to you Chica. Explain things to you. As long as she is there, she never will.

You know none of them think they are wrong or have anything wrong with them. It is just all us "failed" students that are crazy or wrong. They will see the real light if they ever leave there.

Well, COL students really believe her to be next to GOD. I once heard my mom tell her openly in COL class that she loves her more than GOD, because TYK introduced her to the GOD she believes in.

TYK uses Jesus and his disciples as an example of her and her students. I wouldn't be surprised if some COL members think she is a reincarnation of Jesus himself.


She told me either at the first or second conversation I had with her that she was the second coming. I told her the first coming died on the cross for us what does she do for her disciples. All I saw was everyone kissing her butt. There was no admiration in anyones eyes, all I saw was fear and competition to bring things to her first. The whole scenario was sick. She was showing off how everyone catered to her. She does not realize that the outside public looks at her and the scene as sick, sick, sick.

It was shortly after she told me how she saved everyone and everyone's sad story, as I mentioned in a previous posting, and what a savior she was. She said she came to save these people like Jesus came to save and she is like Jesus. That's when I said what I said.
It was quite a conversation.

She was trying to impress me by telling me she walked on fire, blah, blah. She wasn't too impressed when I told her so did I. When she realized she was NOT impressing me but quite the opposite, she asked me for my birthday so she can look up my stars.

When did she get the "Dr" title Chica? SO when you are in col and you want to tell someone about her you have to use all the titles? No more just plain grandmaster? Oh that's right, isn't shs grandmaster now? So does that make mbf sabumnim?

Okay, just to lighten up the mood -

What kind of food does TYK eat? KImchi and rice like the rest of her followers, or more exotic foods, maybe with some protein? Just curious. How about alcohol - does she ever drink anything?

Someone please explain to me why no one defends themselves. This little, illiterate old lady does mean and nasty things to you and you allow it. I do not understand.

There was a time at a trade show and a competitor attacked AG personally. He just stood there and then called this old biddy to ask for permission to defend himself. I remember because AG and I had words about his pride and why he, a tall, smart guy had to ask permission from someone who doesn't even speak English. How long has she been in the country and still cannot speak English? Doesn't that speak volumes in itself.

Remember "God helps those who help themselves."

Someone please explain to me why no one defends themselves. This little, illiterate old lady does mean and nasty things to you and you allow it. I do not understand.

There was a time at a trade show and a competitor attacked AG personally. He just stood there and then called this old biddy to ask for permission to defend himself. I remember because AG and I had words about his pride and why he, a tall, smart guy had to ask permission from someone who doesn't even speak English. How long has she been in the country and still cannot speak English? Doesn't that speak volumes in itself.

Remember "God helps those who help themselves."

Apparently she doesn't need to have the men castrate themselves. She has already done that to them mentally.