I just remembered something else. When we helped TYK move out of COL1 in Fremont when she purchased SG, I was helping her pack up the things in her bedroom. In doing so, I came across a box sitting near a bookshelf in her bedroom that was packed with MANY VHS porn videos. Another female instructor (now ex-COL) was there and I remember looking at her for a response, but she just ignored me, closed up the box and said nothing. That always stuck in my head. What were those used for? For educational purposes? Of what not to do I suppose? Yeah RIGHT!
Another incident just before this time, TYK gathered us all at the COL3 home to discuss some upcoming things that were going to happen because of the Inside Edition attention. In discussing this, I remember Chica asking TYK as an inquistive teenager might, whether the rumors were true that TYK had sex with the instructors. SHS immediately came strongly to TYK's defense, saying to Chica...how dare she say things like that and accuse TYK of such things. What stuck out to me in that whole event was how TYK never said she didn't, rather she said that,...."even if it were true, wouldn't you consider it an honor that your Master would choose you to have that kind of intimacy...." I'm paraphrasing, but maybe Chica can remember the exact wording.
TYK can deny she had a relationship with AG all she wants....so what about the others? How many were there? How many have left and still kept her secrecy? I've always wondered and had my strong suspicions about many.
Shadow Dancer
8/01/2007 1:08am,
I just remembered something else. When we helped TYK move out of COL1 in Fremont when she purchased SG, I was helping her pack up the things in her bedroom. In doing so, I came across a box sitting near a bookshelf in her bedroom that was packed with MANY VHS porn videos. Another female instructor (now ex-COL) was there and I remember looking at her for a response, but she just ignored me, closed up the box and said nothing. That always stuck in my head. What were those used for? For educational purposes? Of what not to do I suppose? Yeah RIGHT!
My guess is that the poor guys that were summoned to do bed duty needed something stimulating to get the South to rise again! I have trouble imagining that some young guy would want to bury his bone in a 60 yr. old hag.
I wonder if her wig ever came off while she was inflagrante delicto? They would both shriek and he'd go down like the Hindenburg.
Kathy Kim
8/01/2007 1:37am,
Shadow, I have to disagree with you. Many men would like to sleep with her. I'm sure they have too. Of course she looks different without her wigs and makeup. You would never recognize her. But she is still an attractive woman for her age. The pictures I seen on cultmaster weren't flattering, but everyone has those.
tyk could probably make someone a very good mate, if she wasn't so hell bent in tearing everyone down, to build herself up.
I call a spade a spade. She was better looking when she was younger, but, if you're lucky, you grow to be older. Most people were better looking when they were younger.
If I was able to get in her mind, I bet she misses those that she has loved. What love are you going to hold on to, or should I say who's? Where and when does the madness stop? You have plenty of money. That is what you wanted. Think twice before you decide to hurt more people. Maybe it isn't too late for you to change your ways of doing things.
To be human is to be wrong sometimes. Everyone makes mistakes. Think about yours. Someday, all are accountable.
Kathy Kim
8/01/2007 2:04am,
Please don't think I have crossed over to the other side. I am in no way defending her for the things she has done. I see the lies are plentiful too. But all isn't just black. When you see someone that has done so many bad things you do see them in a different light or darkness. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
I think Chica is about the prettiest student that tyk has ever had. At least the ones I have met. I'm not saying they are all ugly, but Chica looks 100 times better than all the rest. Including tyk. I bet there was some jealousy there too because of it. I'm amazed that Chica doesn't even realize how pretty she is.
clarehoare
8/01/2007 2:33am,
Did they have any type of answers for them Chica? I couldn't of sworn that I read somewhere here on bs that tyk invited them for the interview to begin with. I actually thought it was Clar that said it. Am I wrong Clar?
I know that she, tyk, had media there once for a testing or a party or something, anyway they started asking the wrong questions that she didn't want to answer so she left the dojong floor and went on over to the lws side. Left them speechless.
My understanding is that her PR people (sak, et al) contacted them (ie) among others (oprah) to do a positive piece, they poked around and decided to do a different kind of piece.
In their initial shoot for B-Roll, they did it under the pre-text that it was a positive piece.
clarehoare
8/01/2007 2:38am,
Two notes.
We all saw her (at least when I was around) at least every few months without her hair / makeup... She came by the weekend we moved in, and I answered the door and didn't know who it was. But I saw her several times after that...
I would say that under the spell, many if not most of the men found her attractive. It's more of a trance thing, than an actual attraction.
I still enjoy SD's comments kathy... I think, obviously, they were tongue in cheek.
clarehoare
8/01/2007 2:41am,
That's just shady. Speaking of Inside Edition, somehow my grandparents in Nothern CA and my grandpa in Long Beach were contacted without my knowledge.
I think that was more likely Noyes, with ABC. He had a much more comprehensive piece.
He has video of the strip teases, secret meetings, etc... A good investigator can easily find relatives.
Shadow Dancer
8/01/2007 1:59pm,
I don't have a problem with plastic surgery. What gave me a rash was her continually telling everyone that she was going in for cancer surgery and how she was fighting for her life. We were also pressured into buying her extra gifts to help keep her spirits up during her deepest trials. I think it was for her boob job that we were martialed to buy her a pink ski outfit. I wonder how many people fighting cancer are going out trying on ski outfits?
As for her being a hag... well, remember her teachings about how we should look at the energy of the true person! If you chisel off the makeup, take away the wig, put her in a normal situation and look at her energy, what do you think you will see?
clarehoare
8/01/2007 2:09pm,
the cancer surgery stories occurred back then? I was around for at least 2 of those... thats a lot of cancer, for not dying.
Kathy Kim
8/01/2007 3:48pm,
She said she had cancer in the late 80's, and then again in 90 or 91 too I believe. The last one she had around the time I left, which she said was cancer, was her boob job that someone found it was a lie. Guess who that person was, and what he was to her? He wouldn't put up with that type of lying. She always hugged us. When a person's breasts are fake, they are really hard. Her's were. Now they have better ones that aren't hard like that.
Fake boobs are fine. Just don't say you have cancer. It will come back on you.
We got her the pink Ski suit as we were all going skiing and she had to look good. It wasn't for her being sick. We went to Utah for New Years Eve. She was still working on getting her young man. shs was even nice and took myself and es shopping and bought us a ski outfit and things we would need. But all the students chipped in for tyk's suit. Ours was no way as pricey as tyk's.
I have noticed that no one has brought up the cash or tithing that they gave tyk every month. You know, the cash in the envelope put in her box by her office door. I was wondering why?
HerLesson
8/01/2007 4:06pm,
She vows she is so religious and reads the bible. If she truly reads the bible, she must know that "what you sow, you will reap". All this will come back to her just like in my dream! Her heart is shrinking day by day by every evil she does. If she lied about cancer, she will get cancer. She talkes about energy, what kind of energy is she filling herself with, lies about cancer? In effect, what you say and act will happen.
Yeoman
8/01/2007 4:44pm,
The revelations keep coming out, like a trickle, then a stream, then a torrent.
Now I have learned she is an habitual liar concerning her health, and yes, if she does in fact get cancer, that would be her just desserts.
Tithing? I only know about that practice in the old church tradition - the Catholics used to do that, and perhaps the Anglicans, but I don't believe that is done anymore. So she gets cash, which of course is untraceable as far as the IRS goes. Damn she's clever... I still would like to know what kind of income she claims - she does have to pay something in the way of taxes.
She's going to solve the North-South Korea situation with her input? That conflict ended somewhere in the fifties, and they haven't been able to sort out anything other than have a truce, and that nutcase in the North is as delusional as her. I wonder how she'd mediate the situation - have everyone chant and meditate and channel their energy with her? What a crock.
She just relishes watching her students react to the threat of her leaving, knowing full well she'd never do that in the first place. What, and lose all that income, control, and ability to abuse them? Whatever would she do - go sit on a mountaintop and commune with the Universe?
HerLesson
8/01/2007 4:58pm,
I just remembered something else. When we helped TYK move out of COL1 in Fremont when she purchased SG, I was helping her pack up the things in her bedroom. In doing so, I came across a box sitting near a bookshelf in her bedroom that was packed with MANY VHS porn videos. Another female instructor (now ex-COL) was there and I remember looking at her for a response, but she just ignored me, closed up the box and said nothing. That always stuck in my head. What were those used for? For educational purposes? Of what not to do I suppose? Yeah RIGHT!
Another incident just before this time, TYK gathered us all at the COL3 home to discuss some upcoming things that were going to happen because of the Inside Edition attention. In discussing this, I remember Chica asking TYK as an inquistive teenager might, whether the rumors were true that TYK had sex with the instructors. SHS immediately came strongly to TYK's defense, saying to Chica...how dare she say things like that and accuse TYK of such things. What stuck out to me in that whole event was how TYK never said she didn't, rather she said that,...."even if it were true, wouldn't you consider it an honor that your Master would choose you to have that kind of intimacy...." I'm paraphrasing, but maybe Chica can remember the exact wording.
TYK can deny she had a relationship with AG all she wants....so what about the others? How many were there? How many have left and still kept her secrecy? I've always wondered and had my strong suspicions about many.
TYK beat and humiliated everyone because of their sexual drive, yet she was fornicating with most the instructors, watching porn, having phone sex with them (this I know to be true as I heard this disgusting old lady saying repulsive things). My belief is if these young men were not brainwashed when they were very young, which she has to do to bed them, they would laugh in her face at her suggestion.
Too bad she did not have to write a journal for everyone to read. If she were honest with all that she has done, it would be like the devil herself wrote it.
Yeoman
8/01/2007 5:19pm,
What a contrast-
to restrict the sexual activity of her followers, and at the same time engage in excess. To act pure and spiritual, while in actuality living her fantasies. She is degrading herself by this behavior, and if her partners were clear headed, they would see her for what she is - an old, worn out whore. It is sad and it is disgusting, but at the same time, understandable, since it parallels her excesses in lifestyle, the mansion, the tons of clothes and furs, the myriad of unsubstantiated "accomplishments" and high martial arts ranks, and let us not forget all the titles - Doctor, Chairman, CEO, Great Grandmaster.
The only reason she can get away with this is that she mesmerizes people and then manipulates them. I still seek to find the key word or action that will snap them out of their hypnotic state.
Kathy Kim
8/01/2007 8:47pm,
I wonder how she thinks she got all her money? Was it her knowing the computer world or was it her students that did it? If she knows what is good for her she should count her blessings right along with counting her dollars. Give the credit where credit is do.
HerLesson
8/01/2007 8:54pm,
Chica, you do not have to convince anyone that you are not lying about TYK. You know that it is the truth. What they say shouldn't matter.
My counselor once said to me, do not expect the person who harmed you to apologize because if they thought that they were doing wrong and should apologize, they wouldn't have done it in the first place. There are people who do not know right from wrong and then there are people who know right from wrong but just don't care. TYK is the latter. Yeoman would know the actual terminology.
You and your brother have grown and matured and moved on with your lives. SHS and your mom are still stuck doing the same thing for the same person and not having grown or matured they are stuck in the past. Does your mom not want a home of her own, a husband of her own, who is committed to her alone?
They talk about AG abusing you. TYK has abused not only you and everyone in COL, emotionally, mentally and I heard from ex-members that they have been physically abused as well. Is that the life a mother wants for her children?