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whoami?
7/19/2007 11:15pm,
Who am I?
I was prostitute in Korea before marrying an American GI.
I was indicted in the late 70’s for arranging fraud marriages.
I filed bankruptcy after I was sued by a student in Vermont for stealing her inheritance.
I sliced my wrists.
I have threatened to commit suicide many times as a way to manipulate my instructors and students.
I had an abortion, lied to my students about what really happened and didn’t think that the truth would come back to me.
I was sued for fraud by my 24 year old husband because I had my tubes tied and couldn’t get pregnant.
I illegally phone tapped my former student’s home phones and played the audios to other students.
I hired investigators to keep tabs on people and even took photos of one of my former instructors having sex with a former student.
I was sued for fraud for taking 1.2m from one of my 21 year old female students and told her that the inheritance was evil.
I am being sued by a 35-year-old former student and lover for palimony.
I broke-up families and took complete control of their life and assets.
I have my students share their most inner thoughts with me, which allows me and my instructors to manipulate their lives.
I made a 9 year old and other younger students smoke and drink as a way to prevent them from doing so later in life.
I got my students to spend money on their credit cards, bankrupt themselves and then change their identities.
I tried to get my male students to cut off their genitals.
I physically beat and abuse my students.
I have told my students that if they have a child that it could be the devil trying to get back at them.
I don’t pay my bills on time and have many local stores complaining about me in Milpitas , California.
I arranged illegal campaign contributions to help a congressman to further my own political position.
I have had sexual relationships with some of my instructors.
I really am not a real PhD but I introduce myself as a PhD and ask people to call me “Dr.”.
My books are really not translated into 14 languages
I have an illegal house cleaner and hire illegal Mexicans outside home depot to landscape my property.
I really am not a celebrity and my television show only taped 40 episodes back in the late 90’s.
I had my employees work for me while collecting unemployment.
I have spent more than $400,000 on St. John outfits while my students suffer financially.
I am being sued by a 35-year-old former student and lover for palimony.
I am very skilled at dodging the IRS and have many schemes to avoid taxes.
I changed my religion at least 3 times.
I am not a cancer survivor.
I am addicted to plastic surgery.
I keep my students debt as high possible and pay them as little as I can so they are dependant on me.
I think I am an incredible teacher but my martial arts credentials are very questionable.
I have started and dissolved more than 20 companies in California and Vermont.
I told my students that I am next to Jesus in God’s eyes and I have told my employees that I speak to God.
I have more of my students against me than for me, which could make the rest of my life a never ending battle.
I am one of a kind.

It is my understanding that every item on this list can be proven with documentation or by at least one person with firsthand knowledge.

If you want help get these items removed from the list please type “Remove” in the subject and post why it is it not true here on BS.

If you want to add to the list based on your experience or documentation, type “Add” in the subject and post what the item is and why it is true here on BS.:icon_quee

This should be a good start point for some dialogue between both sides. Thats all.

Kathy Kim
7/19/2007 11:21pm,
Let's see how many that she can refute. Truthfully that is.

clarehoare
7/19/2007 11:23pm,
good job.

One thing on the st john outfits: Most of them were purchased by her already poor students. In fact my mother, who was in very bad financial shape bought her a $1000 gift card to use at st john. My mother had to beg her repeatedly to allow my mother to be with her when she purchased them (my mother was essentially trying to buy time and appreciation). Kim, finally arranged it so that my mother could join her, but my mother was setup in such a way that Kim was already done shopping and my mother got a matter of seconds with her.

clarehoare
7/20/2007 12:17am,
I took the liberty of removing the wonderful "Whoami" list to Bullshido.org.

http://www.bullshido.org/martialarts/Tae_Yun_Kim

Ok to keep bullshido happy and to keep this thread on target, and compliant with bullshido's thread traffic related policies, lets do the following.

I have placed the Whoami info at the bottom of that page. If you are a supporting member you should be able to add, modify this. Hopefully wolf can help us with possible formatting issues.

If anyone wants to add/modify this information and doesn't have the appropriate credentials go ahead and click on "discuss" on the linked bullshido.org page.

clarehoare
7/20/2007 12:29am,
Chica, I added it to the bullshido.org site.

Everyone: Let's take all further discussion about this the whoami list to this thread:
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=57334

It keeps these claims in a manageable space.

clarehoare
7/20/2007 10:46am,
Ok so after careful consideration BS staff decided that they didn't want to list the "WHoami" list of claims on the ".org" site, until they can be individually cited with evidence. However they did take the liberty of doing a major reformat, and it looks very professional and is better organized.

So if you guys want to manage tht list, I guess continue to do it through here, I'd prefer another thread under investigations, as it will be very intensive in time.

clarehoare
7/20/2007 10:52am,
whoami: Would you mind copy/pasting your list, with chica's integrated and posting it on a new thread, under the top investigation section, where this thread used to be?

Wolf
7/20/2007 11:56am,
if you guys DO start a new thread in MABS make sure it stays on topic as an investigation with results coming. Otherwise it will most likely get merged with this one.

Yeoman
7/20/2007 6:47pm,
I was looking at the enlarged image of TYKs wrists and think that this is definitely not a surgical scar. There appear to be three distinct lines, which would not be consistent with an incision. If anyone has information about this, I would like it to be sent to cultmaster, and clear up the mystery.

Numerous people slash their wrists in suicide attempts, but they will not lose enough blood through this type injury to succeed, at least, not very quickly. If one is serious about their intent, they would open an artery, not a vein. The most accessible one would be the femoral artery in the upper leg, although those in the arms would do as well. Or, just slash your throat. I am not suggesting anything not known, nor am I encouraging anyone to try this method, just giving some information.

In any event, a martial artist of TYK's rank and experience would know these things, so I think this might have been a cry for help or a bid for attention. Having Googled just now, I read of the Japanese "jigai" in which a woman slashes her jugular vein, as in death before dishonor. Korean women had knives they carried for just this purpose

Kathy Kim
7/20/2007 10:13pm,
Well it looks like shs has mud on his face because everything is coming out and how does he explain it? Tell more lies? It is called tunnel vision and CYA.

He's kinda like a frog. tyk says jump and he asks how high. It doesn't have to be right or wrong. Whatever she says is what they will all do. I was included back then. But now they are doing way too too much. Like you have said Clar, there are more people outsid ethan inside.

clarehoare
7/20/2007 11:25pm,
Good evening all, twas a slow day... I imagine because of all the summer events going on this weekend, as I was participating in one...

Chica, I think it is important to note that most with family on the outside (that knew adam) did damage control during September... They went out and professed how bad AG was... The D's had the first visit with their son in a VERY long time, because of it... you guys got dinner et cetera. Nice that suddenly you're family, but then your brothers calls aren't even taken by SHS anymore... its a shame, I guess, family first... but Kim, first-er

I am going to work some more next week on the bullshido.org section.. work on integrating Yeoman's piece he wrote for it. Also I want to start that new thread on the whoami, where some of us can dig through the Postings, and point to who claims what, and try to nail down some evidence so we can start finalizing that list.

To whoami: thank you! I had thought about doing that for a long time, I just don't have the patience.

clarehoare
7/21/2007 1:45am,
Hey sorry, I felt it was inferred from your brother's posts. I wasn't trying to plant words.. sorry i jumped the gun. As I understand it that is the case, but i realized he didn't actually say it.

I just read into what he was saying

(sorry for this post too.. darn jaeger)

clarehoare
7/21/2007 1:56am,
I doubt your mother denies your existence. she even admitted to still loving you... You know she does

On another note, some food for thought....

I was just thinking about how much money they're spending on lawyers. With an average of 250-300 an hour, can you imagine how much they are spendng, fighting the truth?? I mean seriously I can understand spending that if there was something untrue but say the lawyers are billing 4 hours a week at 300 an hour, thats about 2x what a COL member makes per month (do you know a lawyer that actually bills for what time they spend on something? so I am sure it is more)... thats a lot of dough we're bleeding out of them... so think about how much of a difference this forum is making...

Kathy Kim
7/21/2007 3:27am,
What do they need a lawyer for? If she hasn't done anything wrong, why worry. Just wait for your day in court. Maybe the judge or jury will be so mesmorized my tyk and they will believe anything she or her followers say. I mean she does have an innocent look about her doesn't she? It will be something to see though. I doubt the court will bow to her. She probably just needs more proof of what she has done. The rest has slipped her mind.

Yeoman
7/21/2007 7:16am,
Wow,

The forum has pretty much been empty today, except for Yeoman's comment and a few others early this morning.

I notice no one from COL has been up here for a couple of days.They went from a couple of people posting and stirring **** up to absolutely nothing. Is it because they refuse to answer our questions ? Is it because they don't want to accidentally confirm things we wrote about ?

Well, I dunno. Them not wanting to answer the questions never stopped them from posting up here. Instead they decided to avoid the questions altogether, hide fake names and attack us.

Well, maybe they just want to ignore us. TYK used to tell us in class all the time that if you are arguing with someone and they are yelling at you, then you should ignore that person. Because if you yell back at them, they feed off the emotion and the argument gets way out of control. She used to talk about this in class a lot.

I am sure they feel that this thread is starting to take off and get "out of control". Maybe they feel that if they ignore us, that we will start to go away.

Maybe they're going back to their real work -- at Lighthouse.. After all, it is their lifeblood, and they've not only been banned from Bullshido, but are getting nowhere with their attacks. I don't know if being banned prevents them from viewing the forum though. So keep getting the truth out there, ex-COLers

HerLesson
7/21/2007 11:48am,
LWS's lifeblood is keeping TYK on a pedestal. They were also at semicon promoting their products. I, on the other hand was busy with my business.

I am free and well over 21. If SHS had a real marriage, he would know that each person has his/her own thoughts, feelings and opinions. They do not blindly follow the other, that is called a cult not a marriage.
THEY MAY NOT AGREE, but they respect each other's opinion.

"It is impossible not to believe what you see, but it is equally impossible to see what you do not believe. Perceptions are built up on the basis of experience, and experience leads to beliefs. It is not until beliefs are fixed that perception stabilizes. In effect, then what you believe you do see."