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Emiare_Pac
2/02/2005 10:44pm,
lol poor guy he doesnt even have a clue about how much wing chun is hated on here

Phrost
2/02/2005 10:47pm,
Not hated, just held to the same standards we hold everything to. I'd be thrilled to see a Wing Chun guy take on a ranked Boxer and win. It'd be pretty damn cool.

But I'm not going to wish for it so much that I'll delude myself into thinking it'll happen.

Lampa
2/02/2005 10:51pm,
I think you can tell someone has got something wrong with them when they say "complete system."
People here argue as to whether or not MMA training, which combines other systems that also sometimes claim to be complete in order to make itself complete, is indeed complete.

Aesopian, who happens to nutride the system he practices about as hard as one can and still be capable of rational thought, probably wouldn't even try to make such an outrageous claim as to say that he studies a complete system.

gongsau4ever
2/02/2005 10:54pm,
It is complete because we train for all ranges. That is how I define complete.
Why can't a WC guy beat a boxer? We have striking, trapping, etc. That should give us a leg up on a boxer.

Shuma-Gorath
2/02/2005 10:54pm,
Aesopian, who happens to nutride the system he practices about as hard as one can and still be capable of rational thought, probably wouldn't even try to make such an outrageous claim as to say that he studies a complete system.

That's because we BJJers are nutriding for JUSTICE! WC is for freedom-hating terrorists.

Wounded Ronin
2/02/2005 10:58pm,
It is complete because we train for all ranges. That is how I define complete.
Why can't a WC guy beat a boxer? We have striking, trapping, etc. That should give us a leg up on a boxer.


The structure of boxing makes it very very hard for wing chun trapping to be able to work on it. If you talk to someone who is an expert in both boxing and wing chun, they'll agree that the wing chun trapping simply won't work against boxing.

gongsau4ever
2/02/2005 10:59pm,
Ah, much like the right you try to lower the discourse to the lowest possible common denominator. I do not think that is good for america. or bullshido.

Ronson
2/02/2005 11:01pm,
I actually like knowing that guys like gongsau4ever exist because it's very disheartening when you think you're the baddest man on earth and then go to BJJ class, strap on a spanking new blue belt, and then get tooled for the next 2 hours - "This guy looks like a joke, if you didn't now him from Adam, but his knee-on-belly/neck/face is brutal!"

Deadpan Scientist
2/02/2005 11:01pm,
It is complete because we train for all ranges. That is how I define complete.
Why can't a WC guy beat a boxer? We have striking, trapping, etc. That should give us a leg up on a boxer.

Have you ever seen the video of when Emin attacked Cheung?

Ronson
2/02/2005 11:04pm,
Wait for it...I can almost hear it...hummmm...WC is too deadly...MMA, Boxing, MT, Wrestling, BJJ, Judo are confined by rules...hummmm

Don Gwinn
2/02/2005 11:08pm,
Oh NOES, he's not just a troll, he's a leftist troll.

Could Che Guevara have beaten Bruce Lee, assuming they were both in their prime?

lifetime
2/02/2005 11:11pm,
It is complete because we train for all ranges. That is how I define complete.
Why can't a WC guy beat a boxer? We have striking, trapping, etc. That should give us a leg up on a boxer.

Ha ha. Hah. Really. Ha ha. Either you're a troll with good timing or a moron.

Gongsau? We had a thread on "Gong Sau Wong" yesterday.

I am so quickly losing any semblance of respect for WC practitioners it's not even funny. Train for all ranges? How much kicking do you do? How much groundwork do you do? How much conditioning and cardio do you do?

What's that? Once a month? Annual seminar? That time of night when sifu gets all chummy and decides to practice t3h gr4ppl3?

Fucking troll. :new_blowi

supercrap
2/02/2005 11:12pm,
It is complete because we train for all ranges. That is how I define complete.
Why can't a WC guy beat a boxer? We have striking, trapping, etc. That should give us a leg up on a boxer.
the point is not in how many deadly techniques or ranges of fighting you can count on your girly soft fingers. it's about your training methodologies.

Read something about Jigoro Kano and STFU.

Aesopian
2/02/2005 11:13pm,
I don't get how you guys tell WC trolls apart from the "normal" ones.

lifetime
2/02/2005 11:17pm,
I don't get how you guys tell WC trolls apart from the "normal" ones.

The psuedo-Chinese names that, when taken out of context, actually sound somewhat erotic in Chinese translation seem to give it away.

The only real Chinese thing these punks seem to have learnt is the propensity to fabricate bullshit, poorly detailed, poorly edited myths and legends from out between their asscheeks in order to bring forward another tediously debated, moronically argued topic about how good a thing it is to hug a Chinese slap-happy old man's left testicle.

Aesopian
2/02/2005 11:19pm,
How is this different than any other ?ing ?un romo on Bullshido?