Okay, well aside from thinking that Bobby Flay is a dick and I'm pretty certain I could smoke him, what do you guys think of Iron Chef America? I just tuned in to watch the original Iron chef and this amalgamated **** is on. I like Batali and since Morimoto was one of the later Iron Chefs, he's alright too. I hope this is gimmicky and doesn't last. I want to see the old Iron Chef shows again. I'd love if they reupped it in Japan again. Nothing beats Chairman Kaga's outfits.

I always imagined there was an Iron Chef Uncensored where the chefs cook naked.

Then, one of them cuts off his finger after an errant chop.

(translated from the Japanese)

"My goodness! Morimoto's attention wavered for a moment, and the keen blade cut right through his finger! Can Morimoto compete with a severed digit?"

"It remains in doubt, as it was his index finger and- wait! Morimoto is improvising! He has already cleaned and skinned his OWN finger and is browning the epidermis in a clarified butter-sauce with basil infusion.

"The challenger is upset, trying to argue that Morimoto should not be allowed to use an ingredient that was not part of the original list, but we stand firm that this is a legal maneuver."

Morimoto has already extracted the marrow from his finger and has added it to the skillet, and is artfully dabbing his own blood as a decorative glaze for the plate. This is far better than the Japanese mayonnaise topped with cayenne that the challenger utilized, if slightly less sanitary.

"This is certainly most exciting with Morimoto in top form in a culinary sense. One could only contemplate the training that he un- OH LORD, THE CHALLENGER HAS ALSO CUT OFF HIS FINGER."

I swear to God, if those xenophobic panel retards let Flay win over Sakai, I'm going to firebomb their wannabe kitchen stadium. Since when does Southwestern food become Iron Chef worthy. Jesus christ. Applying chili's and peppers to everything does not make it a delicacy.

Wow.. Holy fucktasticness.... Flay made A salmon taco with avocado. Jesus **** dammit god @#$&@#$(@U#$ ****** ass bastard ****. What a fucking tool....

That's it, I'm making Molotovs as I type this.. Of course the panel had retards on it. I hate Americans.

I am guessing you are refering to the second attempt at Iron Chef: America (the non-Shatner centric version).

Totally agree, Flay is a bitch and needs to take a sponge bath with a cheese grater. He is so whiney, boring and egotistical that he makes me want to leap into the tv and strangle him. "Wah Wah Wah, I got electricuted and stabbed myself. I deserve to win because I'm a big dumb jerk." Probably not an exact Flay quote, but it pretty much sums up when he and Morimoto battled in NYC.

The rest is alright. I have no qualm with Batali, and I am a bit of a Morimoto fan. After I saw the man use a blow torch to cook something he had just soaked in Coca Cola, I knew that he had to be watched. My favorite part by far about the Iron Chef America's is Alton Brown doing commentary in place of Dr. Hitori (sp?). I just love Alton Brown, Good Eats, and anything associated with him. I went through the trouble of sneaking into the end of a cooking demonstration (it was expensive) to meet him and I proudly have some a few pictures with him, and an autograph. He is the perfect replacement for the good Doctor.

Ya I like Alton too. He's a down to earth guy. He knows his food chem and ingredients inside and out.

I almost put my foot through the tv when I saw that they awarded Flay the victory. The panel to me on these shows are too young and too uncouth to do food tasting. Three people who i've absolutely never heard of esp with food critique get to test this? If Flay is the new generation of chef, then I'm going to bury my Wusthof. If I ever meet Flay, I'm going to pick a fight with him, kick his ass, outcook him, then tell the world what a no talent hack he is. 95% of Americans have no idea of what to look for in or have even tasted five star food for that matter. Yet they let this **** happen. They've taken a show that had the highest classed chef's from Japan and made a travesty of it. I can't believe Southwestern is now considered cuisine..... I'm digusted. This proves it, people are f'n dumb. This reminds me of P&T's bullshit when they had people try water from a garden hose that was placed into designer bottles and each one had these mystical traits. Every person who tried it said oh well this is very citrusy or this is clean and fresh, it has a light, airy almost champagne taste. Flay also fucking sucks with a knife. Almost every show where he has to use one, he cuts himself. What a tool. This is maximum bullshido for me.

I've never really gotten to see Iron Chef Japan as much as I'd like, so I definitely wanted to check out the American version and I stumbled upon it while channel-surfing one night. Any thoughts on Mark Dacascos as the new Chairman? I must admit, I think it's pretty cool, since he owned Brotherhood of the Wolf. But can he do justice to Kaga?

Alright, Akira, I will bite...what on god fucking green earth makes you think you might be anywhere in a proffesional chef category compared to flay. Yeah, he is a douche, but I have it from several very good chefs that his skills are great.
So, where are you coming from on this?

Just an interesting side note. One of my students, who's a French chef in Japan, is friends with Iron Chef Sakai. I asked him to get Sakai's autograph, but he refused the idea. I'd love to go to some of these guys' restaurants, even though I heard a meal might cost about 20,000 yen (about $200 US).

Reese- Having worked a total of 12 years as a chef in between Italian and Chinese cooking. I'm confident in my skills. I also constantly practice them. If Flay made something aside from Tapas and a trout taco with guac suace, I would give him more credit. He simply appealed to the typical idiot that the average American is when it comes to food. He slams everything with pepper and refuses to use any complicated method of showing a true flavor in something. He could have brought taco bell in with him and the panel would have made up bullshit about how it's so flavourful. If people like his food, that's all well and good, however he's not a great chef. His attitude is fucking horrendous also. That is one of the biggest points with me. I think he's a major tool. I think he and his food are both unrefined. He has no business in a league with Sakai, Kenichi or Michiba. :angry4:

That was an absolute travesty that Sakai lost to Flay. Did anyone else notice Flay's disgusting cold sore? Sick!

Alton Brown is great as the replacement for the Dr, but where is the play by play guy? They need a play by play guy (not just the "on-the-floor" man).

Mark Dacascos is not a fitting replacement for the chairman. He sucks, frankly.

And why do they have to prepare exactly 5 dishes?

I was disappointed with "Iron Chef America". I'm not sure I'll watch it as much as the old Japanese episodes.

So... You don't like mexican food?

Note: Taco bell is not mexican food.

Mexican food is ehhh well not my favorite. I'll never consider it cuisine, but I don't mind it. The only thing I really enjoy are Fajitas, as you know authentically Mexican as they are and all. Have I had real Mexican/South American? Yeah, two old friends of mine were Mexican and his wife was from Guatemala. Alot of the flavor is too cluttered for me and the texture and visualization of the food is just unappealing.

Ah...I see. Interesting

But are youclaiming it takes a higher culunary skill than to make italian? I'm not so inclined to agree. I agree that Italian is aesthetically more pleasing because of the attention to colors.


I will agree with you on french cuisine, which can in turn become way too convoluted to make for my tastes.

What real Italian have you had? The variety of ingredients in Italian cooking is much more diverse. You should essentially taste something different in every bite of your Italian dish. Lasagna, Manicotti and Chicken Parmigana aren't exactly authentic Italian foods. While presentation of the colors of the food are important, it's not the only factor. Preparing Italian isn't as complicated as French food to me You never really have to worry about burning a roux with Italian cooking. French cooking doesn't attempt to cover flavors with too much heat as one would do with SouthWestern. It's more delicate, soft and exquisite.

As strat said, Dacascos sucks as a new chairman. Yeah that cold sore is digusting. I didn't see the beginning of it, was Sakai able to pick his opponent or was he assigned? If we was assigned to Flay, then that truely irritates me as the styles of cooking are radically different. It then becomes completely subjective as to whether someone likes Southwestern or French/Japanese fusion better, rather than who is a better chef at a particular style.