not steriods

but supplements as in creatine and whey protein

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I eat alot of tuna.

Hey stick boy!!!

My current supps are

Gainer100
Whey Protein
Creatine (both pill and powder, got the powder free)
Ammino Fuel
ATP Thermo serum
Nitrotech (if I can get it here. They always order very little and it is gone the first day)
Oderless Garlic tablets
ProZMA (trying it out Got it from a PROLAB rep)

My shakes are broken into three categories:

Normal shake with meal
mix two scoops Whey with two scoops protein with 16oz low fat milk.

Preworkout shake: (at least 30 mins before workout)

1 scoop whey
1 scoop gainer
1tps of Powdered creatine
8oz low fat milk

Ten minutes before workout I chug one can of Starbucks double expresso.
Then lift till worked limbs fall off. Have someone pick up limbs and put them back on.

Post workout shake:
2 scoops gainer
2 scoops whey
16oz Lowfat milk
Plus 3 tbsps of Ammino Fuel

Then 2 cold brews (note: You should not consume alcohol until at least 2 hours after workout. But I don't follow my own advice!)







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"I love you Asia" - I Give BJJs Posted - December 25 2002 : 10:40:09

I eat alot of tuna.

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Straight out of the can or in sandwhich form?
I prefer to eat straight out of the can, creeps the hell out of my friends which is always fun.

"A California man has been taken to court for stalking Anna Nicole Smith. The man has been charged with invasion of privacy, illegal trespassing, and having really bad taste."-Conan

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HEHEHEHEEHEHEHEHE!!!!

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"I love you Asia" - I Give BJJs Posted - December 25 2002 : 10:40:09

When you're through with the junk-science, you might want to learn that the human body can't metabolize protein intake of more than 15% of total calories consumed; anything more than this goes to fat, dehydrates you, and strains your kidneys.

As for supplements, I recommend the following:

Calcium 1000mg
Magnesium 400mg
Zinc 15mg (more is better)
Vitamins: 1-3x USRDA, 1-a-day is fine

Anything more than this is does the same as above.

GNC = Good for Nothing Crap

thats sick asia.

"A California man has been taken to court for stalking Anna Nicole Smith. The man has been charged with invasion of privacy, illegal trespassing, and having really bad taste."-Conan

I'm with Omen Stone. That is some seriously sick ****. BTW, when was that photo of IGBJJs taken anyways?

LMAO!!!!

A friend of mine sent that to me. It gave me nightmares!!!!

>When you're through with the junk-science, you might want to learn that the human body can't metabolize protein intake of more than 15% of total calories consumed; anything more than this goes to fat, dehydrates you, and strains your kidneys.

Dan is right. But it also depended on your metabolism, type and intensity of workout, and KNOWING your supplements. Just because it says PROTEIN doesn't mean you are getting a good deal. you may be getting very little protein and alot of FILLER. Also your goals. If you are trying to gain weight you obviously have to take in more calories than you burn, but you want LEAN mass so DIET is important. If you want to lose weight the opposite is true, but diet is still important.

Dan,

I don't go into minerals because if you are eating properly, which most pple don't, then you don't need them.

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"I love you Asia" - I Give BJJs Posted - December 25 2002 : 10:40:09

I like to remain natural as possiable. So eating right and getting protein from pure meat.

"A California man has been taken to court for stalking Anna Nicole Smith. The man has been charged with invasion of privacy, illegal trespassing, and having really bad taste."-Conan

Do you actually know how much protein you should be eating? If you work out 3-5 days a week for more than an hour you should be eating YOUR BODY WEIGHT IN GRAMS OF PROTEIN. I have a hypothyroid condition, so I'm supposed to be eating lean protein till it comes out of my ears, too. It's nearly impossible to get the needed amount of protein without supplements.

I ocasionally dabble in ephedra/caffeine mix pills, mostly to stay awake and warm at about hour 14 of my 15-20 hour work days.

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-- Buffy the Vampire Slayer, "Once More, With Feeling"

I take protein shakes and a multi-vitamin but that's all.

Straight out of the can or in sandwhich form?
I prefer to eat straight out of the can, creeps the hell out of my friends which is always fun.

Always right out of the can. I often eat it with ramen noodles to help it get down (use chopsticks to get the tuna out easier too).

>When you're through with the junk-science, you might want to learn that the human body can't metabolize protein intake of more than 15% of total calories consumed; anything more than this goes to fat, dehydrates you, and strains your kidneys.

Dan is right. But it also depended on your metabolism, type and intensity of workout, and KNOWING your supplements. Just because it says PROTEIN doesn't mean you are getting a good deal. you may be getting very little protein and alot of FILLER. Also your goals. If you are trying to gain weight you obviously have to take in more calories than you burn, but you want LEAN mass so DIET is important. If you want to lose weight the opposite is true, but diet is still important.
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Actually the main thing is CALORIES; as I mentioned, no more than 15% of these should come from proteins; the rest should be from carbs and fats. "Dr. Quack-tins Diet" aside, If you consume more than 15% of your calories from proteins, you'll only get problems.

Here's another little-kown secret: men should consume at least 30% of their calories from fats, or else testosterone levels drop; that's why men on low-fat diets look (and act) like Leo DeCaprio or Richard Simmons.
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Dan,
I don't go into minerals because if you are eating properly, which most pple don't, then you don't need them.
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You need minerals one way or another; there aren't many diets which provide the mineral amounts I mentioned; likewise most food is grown on depleted soil (since they profit by volume, not food quality), and most people drink de-mineralized (i.e. city) water; I've seen dogs eating sand and babies eating paint-chips because they're so minerally deficient.
Unlike vitamins, plants and animals cannot manufacture minerals, so they have to come from somewhere; when you see a food listed as containing a certain amount of minerals per serving, there's no way of knowing this, since food will often grow just as well with or without minerals, as long as the soil is properly aerated and nitrated (with fertilizer) etc.

For this reason, mineral tablets are the best way to make sure; likewise, there's really no danger in taking too much, so the amounts I mentioned are a form of "cheap insurance."

As for vitamins, it's hard to get those from any diet while remaining in your calorie regimen as well, and there's no harm in taking a regular supplement-- but I'm talking 100% USRDA three times daily, NOT Flintstone's Chewables!

However, anything more than this will cause problems as well.

According to the USDA, someone on a 2000 calorie diet should be eating 50g of protein a day(non-athlete diet). If you are an athlete(we all are here) you should be eating 1.2 to 1.4 grams per kilogram of body weight. People that do endurance sports, like running, should have more protein than people that lift. In addition, if you are trying to get big, there's no need to overload yourself with protein, as a diet high in protein(1.7-2 g/kg body weight) has never been shown to aid in building muscle.

As for vitamins, if you take too much of the fat soluble vitamins A D E and K, you could be creating a dangerous situation for yourself.

Just so you know, taking too much of the water soluble vitamins does NOTHING for you. You'll just put extra stress on your urinary system. The RDA values have included factors for how much you absorb, and how much you need.

I sure am glad I took this Diet and Health class this semester...

damn thats alot of tuna.

"A California man has been taken to court for stalking Anna Nicole Smith. The man has been charged with invasion of privacy, illegal trespassing, and having really bad taste."-Conan