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Originally Posted by Jsun102
Ouch! Well, to tell you the truth, I've never liked wearing the facemask, for basically the same reasons. Every time I go to the ground, it ends up twisting around. Unfortunately, my school requires them. :(




Any reason given?



Yes during some of the old school matches guys heads would hit the ground which would end up in death of serious injury.

Regardless of whether or not a facemask reenforces bad habits those who haven't trained in forever should keep their poorly informed opinions to themselves.

This is like me giving basketball coaching advice. Sure I understand the game and the basics of playing. That's it though.



Edit: didn't know omega was still posting on this thread. My commments have an obvious target though. I too have (rightfully) been such a target.

Dochtor

KNowledge is knowledge. I had experience in this area, hence my post.

Is my post incorrect?

Is the information outdated?

I normally stay OUT of training topics for the exact reasons you stated.

Yes during some of the old school matches guys heads would hit the ground which would end up in death of serious injury.

LOl. This wasn't directed at you. I was wondering what Jsun's school's rational was. For example safety or liability, etc.

I wear leather headgear in my school, very similar to what amateur boxers wear.

That thing is only stopping concussions, not the pain of the shot. If it's loose on your head, it can twist, but having someone strap it on for you solves that problem.

Does the strap-on fit comfortably?




Read this thread for the first time today.


Why would we care what your non-training ass thinks?

When was the last time you even were hit in training? Oh wait you don't train.

Dochmann please, did you even read what he wrote?

If a person earns a graduate degree, be it a M.Sc. or a Ph.D., its never taken back due to inactivity. So why should exerience be any different? Whether it happened 10 mins ago, or 10 years ago, time doesn't diminish the value of one's experiences.

Case in point, recently I spent an afternoon standing around talking to Ron Edwards, former Canadian middleweight boxing champion, and George Chuvalo, who twice fought Mohammad Ali, over 30 years ago. Need I say any more?

If a person earns a graduate degree, be it a M.Sc. or a Ph.D., its never taken back due to inactivity. So why should exerience be any different? Whether it happened 10 mins ago, or 10 years ago, time doesn't diminish the value of one's experiences.

Case in point, recently I spent an afternoon standing around talking to Ron Edwards, former Canadian middleweight boxing champion, and George Chuvalo, who twice fought Mohammad Ali, over 30 years ago. Need I say any more?


WTF does this have to do with anything that's been posted? Here's some KY get your head out your ass!!!

(somebody must've hit the egg nog to hard)


Ho fucking Ho everybody...

::::middle finger to all and to all a good night:::::

WTF does this have to do with anything that's been posted? Here's some KY get your head out your ass!!!

(somebody must've hit the egg nog to hard)


Ho fucking Ho everybody...

::::middle finger to all and to all a good night:::::

The point being that Nog's opinion didn't deserve to be criticized, simply because he hasn't trained in awhile. The M.Sc./Ph.D. reference was aimed at Doc. And my point was that I didn't say something stupid to George Chuvalo like "so what have you done lately."

Dochmann please, did you even read what he wrote?


No he didn't. That is what made his comments and his neg repping of me hilarious. I guess based on reinforcement principles, he would like me to spread bullshido next time.

WTF does this have to do with anything that's been posted? Here's some KY get your head out your ass!!!

(somebody must've hit the egg nog to hard)


Ho fucking Ho everybody...

::::middle finger to all and to all a good night:::::

Funny coming from a person who has likely also hit the "egg nog to hard" himself.
The significance of the analogy is: just because a person has not practiced in a few years, does not mean he has forgotten everything.

Wear a facemask everytime you spar if you're going to use face contact.

Is there any reason in the world you WOULDNT wear one?

As far as keeping your hands down, thats the fault of a bad instructor who isn;t doing his job. If you aren't capable of defending the correct way you shouldnt be sparring to begin with.

Unless you're a pro fighter theres no reason to NOT wear one. I personally never did but after training and suffering alot of injuries I always made my students purchase one.

Anyone want to spend about $5,000 because you got hit with one punch that caught your teeth the right way? How about a nice broken nose when you go to work on Monday? And ANYONE can get hit. The average 14 year old can break a mans nose with one sloppy untrained punch. Thats a nice thing to have happen to a student....then you'l never see him/her again because they'll realize they're not a pro fighter, they arent training for leveryday life and death struggles and broken noses/teeth isn't worth it for them.

Wear the best protective gear you can get.

The first reason for wearing headgear was already mentioned, the other reason is to prevent being CUT from abrasive hand protection or hard shots to the head/face.

Is there anyone here non pro that spars often with full contact to the face/neck and no headgear? If so what about that type of training is worth the many injuries you must have sustained?

Wear a facemask everytime you spar if you're going to use face contact.

Is there any reason in the world you WOULDNT wear one?

As far as keeping your hands down, thats the fault of a bad instructor who isn;t doing his job. If you aren't capable of defending the correct way you shouldnt be sparring to begin with.

Unless you're a pro fighter theres no reason to NOT wear one. I personally never did but after training and suffering alot of injuries I always made my students purchase one.

Anyone want to spend about $5,000 because you got hit with one punch that caught your teeth the right way? How about a nice broken nose when you go to work on Monday? And ANYONE can get hit. The average 14 year old can break a mans nose with one sloppy untrained punch. Thats a nice thing to have happen to a student....then you'l never see him/her again because they'll realize they're not a pro fighter, they arent training for leveryday life and death struggles and broken noses/teeth isn't worth it for them.

Wear the best protective gear you can get.

This post is dead on in my opinion. I have had to foot the bill for both a broken nose and a cracked inscissor, both from training. After the excruciating surgery recovery from a deviated septum and the deductible from both surgeries, I figure will spare myself the repeated anguish.

Cauliflower ear is another reason to have protection on your head.

got that too. That I do not mind so much once it hardened. When it is flaired up it sucks though.