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Stick
7/26/2004 9:24am,
Just got done reading the Marvel Knights: Daredevil run from 1998 to 2003: excellent stuff.

A lot of the art was very sketchy, dark, almost charcoal, my color blind eyes appreciate the dull tones ^_^ In particular all the art in the "Parts of a Hole" (echo story line, loved the crazy way every thing was laid out, nuts) and "Wake Up" (basically Ben Urich's story about an abused son of a "super-villain"). All very cutting edge work, not like any of the main stream stuff I see in X-men, Spider-man, or any of the DC crap. Felt much more like I was looking at works of art, there was one issue in particular that was visually fascinating; it had kind of been a challenge piece: no dialogue.

The stories were well done for the most part. Sure it sometimes got a little convoluted and carried away- damn you Kevin Smith!-, but for the most part it all carried together well. I loved how they would continually trudge out old and incredibly cheesy super villains from the early days of daredevil (the jester, owl, matador, leap frog, or stilt man anyone?) and use these guys that don't amount to much more than 2 dimensional jokes to get to something more important. I really enjoyed the story line where the "White Tiger" goes on trial and all the super heroes take the stand to defend his character and speak to the kind of person it takes to be a super hero, only to- hmmm, spoiler- have white tiger found- wrongfully I must add- guilty, him flip out, and get killed by the police in the ensuing chaos. I was looking at the trade paper back of "essential daredevil", issues from the 70's, the first 25 or so, not sure really; old stuff, painfully dated, it was hilarious to see that some of these guys were drug from the depths of cheesy 70's gag-villains and used so well despite their inherent lameness..... I feel like my writing level has degenerated to that of a 12 year old- "inherent lameness"?

Anywho, great stuff. Still need to find the stuff from the 80's, the original Elektra story line.

After several years of manga- quickly drawn stuff usually all by one person, which don't get me wrong, has its own charm and all- it's good to see something that really experiments with the art.

Ronin
7/26/2004 9:28am,
Have you tried Darkhorse ?
Ebay has alot of comics on sale there ( I got the complete Master of kung fu there).
I have the electra saga myself, in those special editions releases that have a few comics in one "novel", know what I mean?
And ASSfleck ruined DD for me....

Stick
7/26/2004 9:30am,
Yeah, I'll DL scans and all, but the trade paperbacks aka graphic novels are what I crave: great stuff.

As for dark horse, I love their properties work- Buffy, Angel, Star Wars, Predator, etc- but I just do not like they're originals. I really love the style of Hellboy, can't say as I like the series itself though...... and that stupid giant robot and little robot thing has always pissed me off.

Never got a chance to check out, hmmm, was it Ghost? Woman in white, some sort of assassin, seemed very Elektra clone to me, but interesting none the less.

Ronin
7/26/2004 9:32am,
I am looking forward to the electra movie :)
Ah, to see Jenifer in that black leather.....yummy .

Stick
7/26/2004 9:34am,
We'll see, we'll see. Certainly can't be any worse than Catwoman......

I swear, everything that woman touches that has anything to do with anything I might like....... ridiculous.

Boogyman
7/26/2004 9:34am,
I think I have to re-start my collection again. I kinda let it go in the mid nineties (when DD ditched his "new" costume), then the story kinda started to suck so I let it go. With this posting my interest is picqued again. Hmmmm...
Also Assfleck ruined the movie for me as well (I think it dropped the value of my collection).

Stick
7/26/2004 9:36am,
.......

I swear.... I'm like the ONLY person who liked that movie! >_<

:: snuggles his DareDevil DVD ::

Granted we'd have been better off if Colin Ferrel had played DD, but aflec didn't ruin the WHOLE movie! BLAGH!

I hate you all and will now go pout in the corner!

Ronin
7/26/2004 9:40am,
Sorry bro, but, Farrel and Garner aside, it was just horrible, I will even give you a black kingpin, considering the great job Duncan did, but ASSfleck ARGGHRGARDFVYUGF G !!!!!!!!!

On a side note, I finally saw the "borne identity" in enjoyed it, Nick Powell rules in his fight choreography, so does the editor, they actually made Damon "not that bad", I am even going to go see the "bourne supremacy" :)

Stick
7/26/2004 9:43am,
The supremacy was excellent, his fight in the agent's house in Berlin while the camera work is at times too shaky- is awesome, great finish to the fight too, goes to the ground and everything. Beautiful ****.

THAT is the kind of coreography I'd like to do in a movie.

Ronin
7/26/2004 9:48am,
Excellent, I heard it was a combination of kali or ecrima, wing chun, judo, karate and boxing.
I did like his disarms and the burting from stillness into sudden movment.
Always looks good in the movies when they do that.

LLL
7/26/2004 10:33am,
Bullseye is my hero (the comic version).

Stick
7/26/2004 10:38am,
Bullseye just made me want to kick him.... I mean, come on! He brought a gun with one bullet? WTF, one bullet?!?! Just so he could rub it in on Karen Page when she picked up the gun and expected to get a shot off- again I scream WTF?!

I loved when DD just bitched him out around issue 49 though, after beating the **** out of him- and with feds practically looking on approvingly- he just carves two circles into that pillock's bald head with like a piece of glass: one for Karen and one for Elektra.

Ronin
7/26/2004 10:42am,
He should have let the train run his ass over BEFORE he came back to kill Electra.

LLL
7/26/2004 10:50am,
Nice avatar BTW Dai-Tenshi...

http://www.geocities.com/darkcernunnos/deathguise.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/darkcernunnos/deathumbrella.jpg

Stick
7/26/2004 10:52am,
Why thank you, I was wondering if anyone would notice ^_^

TheManchu
7/27/2004 3:22am,
Originally posted by LLL
Bullseye is my hero (the comic version).

Me too, he made brain tumors cool.