I've been training/studying since I was 7. I started in what I now know is a wing chun/kung fu hybrid. After that I ran across this guy training people to move like I hadn't seen. He claimed it was nijutsu, specifically Iga Ryu. I didn't even know what a ninja was then. I trained for years and everything he taught me was useful(tested in fights because I and others like me are idiots). When I started studying aikido I noticed slight overlap with what he showed me. He didn't charge any money so I didn't lose in that respect, but i don't want to walk around saying I studied a style I didn't.

What I (mainly) learned from him consisted of the following:

strikes to muscle tendons
nerve strike
joint strikes
joint locks/breaks/dislocation
meridians of the body

weapons:
fighting with a bo staff
fighting with a ninjato
shuriken
sai
naginata
chain
tonfa

Is this just a juijutsu list, or was he for real? Might seem silly to ask if i know it works, but I don't want to BS people. Is there even an Iga ryu? I looked into the Stephen Hayes books for answers, and I'm still not sure...

Dillman Dildo meets Ashida Kim

you didn't get lied to
ninjitsu is the deadliest art of them all
it encompasses all other styles
that is why you saw overlapping
ninjas are deadly
you are very lucky

did you learn the death touch?

Ignore the heathens.

Obviously you were taught something of value, but it was likely not "ninjutsu" since no white guy could be able to teach that. In fact, no one teaches it anymore. It's a dead art, and some people like to use the name because it's cool.

Frankly, it sounds like you were taught a mixed form of Kung Fu with Japanese weapons and some JuJutsu. If it worked for you, though, it's a decent art. You just aren't a ninja.

You shouldn't have come to a message board to reveal our secrets. Santos, you have now been marked for death.

did your training consist of flippling out? cuz thats like totally sweet! :-)

go to your local mma gym or dojo/kwoon that spars. ask if you can do medium speed sparring with one of the intermediate students and see how you do (don't mention ninjas, just tell them you aren't sure how well the stuff you were shown works). if it works.. don't worry about what he called it, etc... just go with it ... and keep training.

for the record... you are going to have a hard time convincing all but kids that you studied actual ninjitsu ...

btw, welcome to bullshido ... n1nj4s r0xX0r

if someone taught you and art that was effective and you had tested it out on more than one occasion and called it "majic-carpet-do" would you give a ****?

I wouldn't

Anyone who claims to know ANYTHING from Iga lineage is completely and entirely full of ****.

Thank you for the quick reply. I know if it work, it works, just wanted to sort this out before approaching a school which asks my background, and I end up answering untruthfully

you don't have to tell anyone anything about your MA backround. Not even a new teacher and truthfully they probably don't even care it's just a point of conversation.

Where I am the first thing asked is "what did you already study?" Shouldn't matter as you said since you study what you're there to study

Well, I believe a prospective student´s background in MA matters to the teacher. Two reasons:

1) The student may already know some of the techniques being taught, or the student may know some techniques which may influence badly what he will learn there (eg. straight punch vs jab). A teacher should know that, so he may correct the student ("stop doing that, this is not wing chun, this is muay thai".

2) The prospective student may be a fucktard who wants to beat up the white belts, or he may be too damn good to train with the white belts. It happens. The teacher must know who is he dealing with.

Originally posted by Santos Grim


Is this just a juijutsu list, or was he for real? Might seem silly to ask if i know it works, but I don't want to BS people. Is there even an Iga ryu? I looked into the Stephen Hayes books for answers, and I'm still not sure... This might help; your sinsei is so stupid he sits on the TV and watches the couch. Chicklet commercials always help:D

didn't charge any money? so it was free? good deal if it works

I ask new students who look like they've done MA in the past if they studied before, just so I know if I have to get rid of any bad habits they have. Otherwise, I don't care. Those who have talent and knowlegde will show it when they step on the mat, and I'll group them accordingly. Those who don't, even if they have an Nth degree BB in WTF-Fu, are just like everyone else, and are treated as such.

Yes it was free.

WingChun Lawyer:

What you say makes a lot of sense. Not sure why anyone would think beating on a white belt will make you better...