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Bneterasedmynam
9/18/2017 9:07am,
So you republicans like to talk for days about how great the free market is, but please explain to me how this **** is a free market: https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-foxconn-wisconsin-incentive-package-20170917-story,amp.html

This goes back to my statement about republicans stacking the deck in the so called "free" market.

Oh and cue irony since it's not even an American company.

Michael Tzadok
9/18/2017 9:23am,
So you republicans like to talk for days about how great the free market is, but please explain to me how this **** is a free market: https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-foxconn-wisconsin-incentive-package-20170917-story,amp.html

This goes back to my statement about republicans stacking the deck in the so called "free" market.

Oh and cue irony since it's not even an American company.

I guess you missed the part about it being a bipartisan bill.

Bneterasedmynam
9/18/2017 9:39am,
I guess you missed the part about it being a bipartisan bill.

Bipartisan in that a few democrats supported it, the bill passed 64-31. With only 2 republicans voting against it. It was mostly a republican bill.

So again my question is why are republicans in mass behind this bill?? It's state sanctioning with tax dollars to give one foreign company an unfair advantage in the "free" market.

MisterMR
9/18/2017 9:51am,
So you republicans like to talk for days about how great the free market is, but please explain to me how this **** is a free market: https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-foxconn-wisconsin-incentive-package-20170917-story,amp.html

This goes back to my statement about republicans stacking the deck in the so called "free" market.

Oh and cue irony since it's not even an American company.

It's free for Foxconn.

1bad65
9/18/2017 10:04am,
I guess you missed the part about it being a bipartisan bill.

Exactly.

Both parties do this, fyi.

Living in Austin we see this constantly. And Austin is very liberal and run by Ds.

High tech companies would get massive incentive packages to open wafer fabs (where silicon chips are made) all throughout the 1990s. I, and many friends, worked in places that got incentives.

Sadly, it's how business is done all too often. I've even seen companies play cities off each other to get more incentives, kinda like NFL owners looking for the sweetest stadium deals.

Not defending it, but it does create jobs and thus revenue on the back end. Taxpayers can only hope they get more on the back end than what they gave away as incentives.

Bneterasedmynam
9/18/2017 10:06am,
It's free for Foxconn.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/Le6oFSUWEDLdm/200w.gif

BKR
9/18/2017 10:09am,
So you republicans like to talk for days about how great the free market is, but please explain to me how this **** is a free market: https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-foxconn-wisconsin-incentive-package-20170917-story,amp.html

This goes back to my statement about republicans stacking the deck in the so called "free" market.

Oh and cue irony since it's not even an American company.

"Free market" ? Fella, you are way behind the times...

Just wait until the government intervenes in the economy to REALLY combat AGW, then we will see just how unfree markets are and have been for a long time.

Sounds like a good deal for Wisconsin to me, bringing jobs to the USA.

BKR
9/18/2017 10:10am,
Bipartisan in that a few democrats supported it, the bill passed 64-31. With only 2 republicans voting against it. It was mostly a republican bill.

So again my question is why are republicans in mass behind this bill?? It's state sanctioning with tax dollars to give one foreign company an unfair advantage in the "free" market.

Happens all the time. Any reason why the Dims were against it ?

Bneterasedmynam
9/18/2017 10:10am,
Exactly.

Both parties do this, fyi.

Living in Austin we see this constantly. And Austin is very liberal and run by Ds.

High tech companies would get massive incentive packages to open wafer fabs (where silicon chips are made) all throughout the 1990s. I, and many friends, worked in places that got incentives.

Sadly, it's how business is done all too often. I've even seen companies play cities off each other to get more incentives, kinda like NFL owners looking for the sweetest stadium deals.

Not defending it, but it does create jobs and thus revenue on the back end. Taxpayers can only hope they get more on the back end than what they gave away as incentives.

Right, but we already know that liberals are socialists. The republicans constantly talk about how they're capitalists and hold to the free market. This isn't what they demonstrate with bills like this.

Bneterasedmynam
9/18/2017 10:12am,
Happens all the time. Any reason why the Dims were against it ?

Probably because they don't enjoy the idea of giving away 3 billion in tax dollars to inflate the accounts of a few billionaires.

BKR
9/18/2017 10:13am,
It's free for Foxconn.

Read it and weep, our Eyetalian friend, read it and weep...
https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/italy-unemployment-rate.png?s=umrtit&v=201709011607v

https://tradingeconomics.com/italy/unemployment-rate
Italy's seasonally adjusted jobless rate rose slightly to 11.3 percent in July 2017 from an upwardly revised 11.2 percent in June and above market expectations of 11.1 percent. The number of unemployed persons increased by 61 thousand from the previous month and employment went up by 59 thousand.

There were 2.950 million unemployed people, 61 thousand more than in the previous month. Meantime, employment also rose by 59 thousand to 23.063 million and those detached from the labour force declined by 115 thousand to 13.317 million.

Youth unemployment rate, measuring job-seekers between 15 and 24 years old, went up to 35.5 percent from a revised 35.2 percent in June.

Italy's overall employment rate, on of the lowest in the Euro Area, edeged up to 58 percent in July from 57.9 percent in June.

Bneterasedmynam
9/18/2017 10:14am,
None of this is addressing my original question. Why are the free market republicans supporting this??

Bneterasedmynam
9/18/2017 10:15am,
Read it and weep, our Eyetalian friend, read it and weep...
https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/italy-unemployment-rate.png?s=umrtit&v=201709011607v

https://tradingeconomics.com/italy/unemployment-rate
Italy's seasonally adjusted jobless rate rose slightly to 11.3 percent in July 2017 from an upwardly revised 11.2 percent in June and above market expectations of 11.1 percent. The number of unemployed persons increased by 61 thousand from the previous month and employment went up by 59 thousand.

There were 2.950 million unemployed people, 61 thousand more than in the previous month. Meantime, employment also rose by 59 thousand to 23.063 million and those detached from the labour force declined by 115 thousand to 13.317 million.

Youth unemployment rate, measuring job-seekers between 15 and 24 years old, went up to 35.5 percent from a revised 35.2 percent in June.

Italy's overall employment rate, on of the lowest in the Euro Area, edeged up to 58 percent in July from 57.9 percent in June.


Now that's just mean.

BKR
9/18/2017 10:15am,
Exactly.

Both parties do this, fyi.

Living in Austin we see this constantly. And Austin is very liberal and run by Ds.

High tech companies would get massive incentive packages to open wafer fabs (where silicon chips are made) all throughout the 1990s. I, and many friends, worked in places that got incentives.

Sadly, it's how business is done all too often. I've even seen companies play cities off each other to get more incentives, kinda like NFL owners looking for the sweetest stadium deals.

Not defending it, but it does create jobs and thus revenue on the back end. Taxpayers can only hope they get more on the back end than what they gave away as incentives.

If it weren't for "incentives", and an not-so-free market, Mexico would have a lot more industrial/manufacturing plants than it already has, which is too many.

BKR
9/18/2017 10:16am,
Right, but we already know that liberals are socialists. The republicans constantly talk about how they're capitalists and hold to the free market. This isn't what they demonstrate with bills like this.

Those sorts of generalizations are like saying you are nothing but a poor quality troll.

BKR
9/18/2017 10:21am,
Probably because they don't enjoy the idea of giving away 3 billion in tax dollars to inflate the accounts of a few billionaires.

Which billionaires? And so, if they get a few thousand long-term good jobs with benefits for people for the 3 billion (plus other peripheral economic benefits), and investors make money, what's so bad about that ?

This is how the game is played, companies shop around for best deal they can get in a place with the type of workers they need, among other things I'm sure.

Not saying it's the best or only way. Can you propose an alternative ?