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Wounded Ronin
8/29/2017 3:38pm,
I don't know too much about Tim Larkin except that at some point or another someone made a thread about him on this website. I was surprised, therefore, when I stumbled across a recent podcast that he made. Apparently, the subject is "When Violence Is The Answer".

http://www.artofmanliness.com/2017/08/29/podcast-334-violence-really-answer/



Today on the show, Tim and I discuss what he means by violence and why it’s often the only possible response to violence. He then goes into detail about the difference between antisocial aggression and asocial violence and how to respond to both. We then discuss why good people should study criminals on how to use violence more effectively. We end our conversation by exploring how knowing how to kill and maim people can counterintuitively make you a more peaceful and gentle man.


Oookaayy then....I don't feel the need to listen to it, but it sounds like a weird, over the top macho podcast! If it were me, I'd be embarrassed to make public statements like that.

It kind of reminds me of this weird old musical gem, in terms of wackyness and being ridiculous:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3Dsuax773Y

Be sure to listen to the lyrics.....

DCS
8/29/2017 3:41pm,
This artofmanliness website is very ghey.

BKR
8/29/2017 6:05pm,
This artofmanliness website is very ghey.

Well, ghey does not necessarily mean not manly...

(insert pic of manly gay guy from website I will definitely not access from work).

BKR
8/29/2017 6:06pm,
I don't know too much about Tim Larkin except that at some point or another someone made a thread about him on this website. I was surprised, therefore, when I stumbled across a recent podcast that he made. Apparently, the subject is "When Violence Is The Answer".

http://www.artofmanliness.com/2017/08/29/podcast-334-violence-really-answer/



Oookaayy then....I don't feel the need to listen to it, but it sounds like a weird, over the top macho podcast! If it were me, I'd be embarrassed to make public statements like that.

It kind of reminds me of this weird old musical gem, in terms of wackyness and being ridiculous:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3Dsuax773Y

Be sure to listen to the lyrics.....

His name is Tim Larkin and he’s a self-defense expert and the founder of Target Focus Training. Tim has trained military, law enforcement, and civilians on how to use violence to protect themselves. In his latest book, When Violence Is the Answer, Tim makes a convincing case that civilians need to change their mindset about violence if they want to protect themselves and their family.

**Edit*** from the bullet list same link Why training is easy, but the understanding and mindset is hard to come by
That's all I needed to read from the link you posted...

baby_cart
8/29/2017 7:33pm,
the art of manliness website is very sad. it has many good resources, but it just takes outside "experts" at face value, without verification of their expertise and the validity of the critism from their critics. first it was krav maga, then anthony cummins, now it's tim larkin. they should've just stuck to the gracies (which they did before).

scipio
8/30/2017 3:12am,
the art of manliness website is very sad. it has many good resources, but it just takes outside "experts" at face value, without verification of their expertise and the validity of the critism from their critics. first it was krav maga, then anthony cummins, now it's tim larkin. they should've just stuck to the gracies (which they did before).

Agree - there have been a couple of videos on there that have been quite interesting - for example the battle ropes workout is quite good and I was interested in the videos with Mark Reptoe.

MisterMR
8/30/2017 4:49am,
Why Tim treats everyone he meets as if they’re seconds away from a shooting spree.

The last point from the "Show Highlights" really sounds paranoid.
I don't think that a self defence course that teachs you to treat everyone you meet "as if they’re seconds away from a shooting spree" can ever be a good self defence course.

BKR
8/30/2017 11:44am,
The last point from the "Show Highlights" really sounds paranoid.
I don't think that a self defence course that teachs you to treat everyone you meet "as if they’re seconds away from a shooting spree" can ever be a good self defence course.

That's essentially a hyperbolic way of expressing the idea that "everybody is armed". Hyperbole sells ****, and that's what Larkin's is doing, making a living.

In a country with firearms rights like the USA, it's not unreasonable to assume everyone is armed (as in firearm), and certainly with a blade of some sort. It's not a matter of paranoia, it's just a practical matter to be considered.

Heck, a guy like Rayce carries enough deadly weapons around while he works to take out a platoon of Carabinieri...

MisterMR
8/30/2017 6:15pm,
That's essentially a hyperbolic way of expressing the idea that "everybody is armed". Hyperbole sells ****, and that's what Larkin's is doing, making a living.

In a country with firearms rights like the USA, it's not unreasonable to assume everyone is armed (as in firearm), and certainly with a blade of some sort. It's not a matter of paranoia, it's just a practical matter to be considered.

Heck, a guy like Rayce carries enough deadly weapons around while he works to take out a platoon of Carabinieri...

I understand this, but ideally one of the differrnces between a martial art/combat sport and a RBSD course is that the latter should have some teaching about situation awareness, that I think is what they are hinting with that sentence.
But the idea that you should be allways on alarm is stupid IMHO, first of all because it is impossible to be allways on alert, and second because it sounds like a recipe to escalate instead of deescalate.

Raycetpfl
8/30/2017 6:53pm,
That's essentially a hyperbolic way of expressing the idea that "everybody is armed". Hyperbole sells ****, and that's what Larkin's is doing, making a living.

In a country with firearms rights like the USA, it's not unreasonable to assume everyone is armed (as in firearm), and certainly with a blade of some sort. It's not a matter of paranoia, it's just a practical matter to be considered.

Heck, a guy like Rayce carries enough deadly weapons around while he works to take out a platoon of Carabinieri...

To be fair they haven't had much of a fighting force since the fall of The Roman empire.

BackFistMonkey
8/30/2017 7:01pm,
That's essentially a hyperbolic way of expressing the idea that "everybody is armed". Hyperbole sells ****, and that's what Larkin's is doing, making a living.

In a country with firearms rights like the USA, it's not unreasonable to assume everyone is armed (as in firearm), and certainly with a blade of some sort. It's not a matter of paranoia, it's just a practical matter to be considered.

Heck, a guy like Rayce carries enough deadly weapons around while he works to take out a platoon of Carabinieri...

...

Google says

The Carabinieri is a military force charged with police duties under the authority of both the Ministry of Defence and Ministry of the Interior. Carabinieri is the national gendarmerie of Italy, policing both military and civilian populations.

Was that as random as it seems or am I missing a connection between the thread and Italy's militarized traffic cops?

BKR
8/30/2017 7:37pm,
I understand this, but ideally one of the differrnces between a martial art/combat sport and a RBSD course is that the latter should have some teaching about situation awareness, that I think is what they are hinting with that sentence.
But the idea that you should be allways on alarm is stupid IMHO, first of all because it is impossible to be allways on alert, and second because it sounds like a recipe to escalate instead of deescalate.

I'm not sure what Larkins exactly wrote, because I'm not going to waste my time reading his stuff.

However, assuming that everyone is armed does not equal "on alarm", or paranoid, or "always on alert", or is it "a recipe to escalate instead of deescalate".

I constantly check people for weapons where I work, but I'm not a nervous wreck. I do the same when I'm just walking around, it's a habit. A guy has a knife or gun on him where I work, I have to tell him to leave, secure the weapon, and come back. That's when I get a bit more on point, because not everybody is happy about that for various reasons. Most just apologize and comply, as around here at least, carrying a knife is equal to carrying pliers or a bottle opener, and carrying a gun concealed or open is totally legal (with exceptions for certain places, like where I work).

I was trying to make the point that you live in Italy, where (I assume) people may carry knives, but not firearms, in public (unless hunting or something similar), so to you, firearm = alarm OMG terrorist/bank robber etc.

Larkins was IMO, exaggerating for effect (to sell stuff). Remember that, everybody has to make a living...

BKR
8/30/2017 7:37pm,
To be fair they haven't had much of a fighting force since the fall of The Roman empire.

Modesty is not your strong suite...

BKR
8/30/2017 7:41pm,
...

Google says


Was that as random as it seems or am I missing a connection between the thread and Italy's militarized traffic cops?

I was making kind of a joke that MrMister might get, as he would know what the Carabinieri are and that they are armed, plus, a joke towards Rayce, as he has written about how many deadly tools he carries (which is true), versus Italian armed traffic cops,and he got it, LOL.

So you see, Monkey, it was a multilayered joke based on circumstance and past behavior and attitude of the people involved.

Maybe you should get some rest?

BackFistMonkey
8/30/2017 8:12pm,
AhHA! I missed MisterMR's location ... for some reason I was thinking he was in Spain. I was so confident in that assumption that didn't check before asking.

but now on to more on topic discussion, that was a ridiculous podcast.

BKR
8/30/2017 10:30pm,
AhHA! I missed MisterMR's location ... for some reason I was thinking he was in Spain. I was so confident in that assumption that didn't check before asking.

but now on to more on topic discussion, that was a ridiculous podcast.

I admire your fortitude monkey I can't be arsed to listen to that crap.

Yes I should keep an open mind and do so but apparently I'm right from what you wrote.