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1bad65
7/25/2017 4:07pm,
'Mattis moves to refocus military training on ‘warfighting,’ after complaints on ‘senseless’ exercises'

Defense Secretary Jim Mattis wants to overhaul military education and training to “regain” the art of warfighting following complaints by thousands of service members that their time is being wasted by hours of mandatory training, according to a new memo obtained by Fox News.

The training that is the subject of complaints covers everything from alcohol use to active shooters to sexual harassment to stress management.

Addressing the service secretaries and chiefs of the Armed Forces, Mattis has ordered the formation of a new working group to “determine changes to military personnel policies” to “equip more ready and lethal forces.” The working group will include the second in command of each branch of the U.S. military and report to the deputy secretary of defense and vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

The secretary wants each service to examine its military education to “regain a concentration on the art and science of warfighting” and look into the hours of “mandatory force training that does not directly support core tasks” such as flying jets, jumping out of planes, and hundreds of other U.S. military missions essential to defending the United States and its allies.

One official with knowledge of the discussions surrounding the memo told Fox News, “service members spending too much time on senseless training that is really a waste of time.” One U.S. military officer said there is “too much sexual harassment training” and not enough time spent at places like the shooting range, for example.

Last year, Fox News traveled to Ellsworth Air Force Base where numerous B-1B bomber pilots said that in addition to planning and flying training missions that can take over 12 hours at a time, they spend “countless hours” on mandatory training they view as unnecessary.

Currently, only about half the Air Force’s fleet of long-range B-1B bombers are fully mission capable.

Mattis also wants the working group to look into “hiring practices for the [DoD] civilian workforce,” which some senior military officers have complained has become too large in recent years despite Obama-era cuts involving tens of thousands of uniformed service members.

“There are more civilians working for the Pentagon than there are uniformed troops in the Navy and Air Force combined,” Katherine McIntire Peters, deputy editor of Government Executive Media Group, wrote in a recent op-ed. Peters put the Defense Department’s civilian work force at 770,000.

The defense chief also is instructing the new task force to examine “counterintelligence competencies” for the military’s law enforcement agencies.

Recommendations are due by Dec. 1, 2017, according to the memo.

Source:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...exercises.html

ermghoti
7/25/2017 7:17pm,
Sounds like corporate America, where you drag all the employees through a course for everything under the sun, mostly to CYA. That said, the rate of sexual harrasment of women in the military is something like 100%, so I don't know if that's where I'd start the cutbacks.

omoplatypus
7/25/2017 7:52pm,
From my time working with vets, and listening to their description of their daily lives in active duty, I think Gen. Mattis is trying to keep the military from becoming this... (https://streamable.com/h6do7)

ghost55
7/25/2017 8:04pm,
Removing **** on stress management seems like a really dumb idea.

battlefields
7/25/2017 10:21pm,
Sounds like corporate America, where you drag all the employees through a course for everything under the sun, mostly to CYA. That said, the rate of sexual harrasment of women in the military is something like 100%, so I don't know if that's where I'd start the cutbacks.

Segregation of men and women in the military.

Solution identified, implementation should be immediate.

For further consultation on how I can improve the American military, contact me through the message feature here on Bullshido.

ghost55
7/25/2017 10:36pm,
Segregation of men and women in the military.

Solution identified, implementation should be immediate.

For further consultation on how I can improve the American military, contact me through the message feature here on Bullshido.

You're Australian, none of us give a **** what you think.

Bneterasedmynam
7/26/2017 7:54am,
Segregation of men and women in the military.

Solution identified, implementation should be immediate.

For further consultation on how I can improve the American military, contact me through the message feature here on Bullshido.

Only way that would work is if you kick women out of the military. Segregation wouldn't work. I wouldn't actually be surprised if that's not their next tactic considering this administrations track record with women's rights.

1bad65
7/26/2017 9:01am,
Not sure if this is the right thread or if it should go into the Trump master thread. I'll put it here. Sorry if I picked the wrong thread.

Trump to reinstate US military ban on transgender people

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump announced Wednesday that he plans to reinstate the ban transgender individuals from serving "in any capacity" in the US armed forces.
The decision reversed a policy initially approved by the Defense Department under President Barack Obama, which was still under final review, that would allow transgender individuals to openly serve in the military. Defense Secretary James Mattis announced last month that he was delaying enactment of the plan to begin allowing transgender individuals to join the US military.

"After consultation with my Generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States Government will not accept or allow Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military," Trump said in a series of tweets Wednesday morning. "Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail."

"Thank you," he added.

Ash Carter, the Defense secretary under Obama, ended the ban on transgender people serving openly in the military in 2016, but allowed for a year-long review process to allow the Pentagon to determine how it would accept new transgender recruits into the military.

On the eve of that one-year deadline, Mattis announced that he was delaying the implementation of the new policy, saying he needed more time.
"Since becoming the Secretary of Defense, I have emphasized that the Department of Defense must measure each policy decision against one critical standard: will the decision affect the readiness and lethality of the force?" Mattis said in a memo late last month. "Put another way, how will the decision affect the ability of America's military to defend the nation? It is against this standard that I provide the following guidance on the way forward in accessing transgender individuals into the military Services."

A 2016 Rand Corp. study commissioned by the Defense Department concluded that letting transgender people serve openly would have a "minimal impact" on readiness and health care costs, largely because there are so few in the military's 1.3 million-member force.

The study put the number of transgender people in the military between 1,320 and 6,630. Gender-change surgery is rare in the general population, and the RAND study estimated the possibility of 30 to 140 new hormone treatments a year in the military, with 25 to 130 gender transition-related surgeries among active service members. The cost could range from $2.4 million and $8.4 million, an amount that would represent an "exceedingly small proportion" of total health care expenditures, the study found.

Source:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/politics/trump-military-transgender/index.html

BackFistMonkey
7/26/2017 9:14am,
Well the other thread is shitposting and non serious discussion. This thread seems to have serious discussion and interesting content.
So I mean ...I think you did it right.

ermghoti
7/26/2017 9:17am,
Segregation of men and women in the military.

Solution identified, implementation should be immediate.

For further consultation on how I can improve the American military, contact me through the message feature here on Bullshido.

We both know that's not happening. Politics win over combat effectiveness, even at the height of WWII.

Bneterasedmynam
7/26/2017 10:08am,
We both know that's not happening. Politics win over combat effectiveness, even at the height of WWII.

That's pretty much been status quo for much of human history.

Wounded Ronin
7/26/2017 10:08am,
So obviously Mattis knows a lot more about these things than I do...but I feel like echoing what some of the people here have said. Does cancelling classes on stress management and sexual harassment really seem like a good idea?

Michael Tzadok
7/26/2017 10:13am,
Not sure if this is the right thread or if it should go into the Trump master thread. I'll put it here. Sorry if I picked the wrong thread.

Trump to reinstate US military ban on transgender people

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump announced Wednesday that he plans to reinstate the ban transgender individuals from serving "in any capacity" in the US armed forces.
The decision reversed a policy initially approved by the Defense Department under President Barack Obama, which was still under final review, that would allow transgender individuals to openly serve in the military. Defense Secretary James Mattis announced last month that he was delaying enactment of the plan to begin allowing transgender individuals to join the US military.

"After consultation with my Generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States Government will not accept or allow Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military," Trump said in a series of tweets Wednesday morning. "Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail."

"Thank you," he added.

Ash Carter, the Defense secretary under Obama, ended the ban on transgender people serving openly in the military in 2016, but allowed for a year-long review process to allow the Pentagon to determine how it would accept new transgender recruits into the military.

On the eve of that one-year deadline, Mattis announced that he was delaying the implementation of the new policy, saying he needed more time.
"Since becoming the Secretary of Defense, I have emphasized that the Department of Defense must measure each policy decision against one critical standard: will the decision affect the readiness and lethality of the force?" Mattis said in a memo late last month. "Put another way, how will the decision affect the ability of America's military to defend the nation? It is against this standard that I provide the following guidance on the way forward in accessing transgender individuals into the military Services."

A 2016 Rand Corp. study commissioned by the Defense Department concluded that letting transgender people serve openly would have a "minimal impact" on readiness and health care costs, largely because there are so few in the military's 1.3 million-member force.

The study put the number of transgender people in the military between 1,320 and 6,630. Gender-change surgery is rare in the general population, and the RAND study estimated the possibility of 30 to 140 new hormone treatments a year in the military, with 25 to 130 gender transition-related surgeries among active service members. The cost could range from $2.4 million and $8.4 million, an amount that would represent an "exceedingly small proportion" of total health care expenditures, the study found.

Source:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/politics/trump-military-transgender/index.html

Well if you look at military regs a persons with various pre-existing conditions that will require surgery are not eligible for enlistment. As someone who lost an appointment to a military academy over an underbite, I can say I am conflicted. Feel sorry for the people, but it also seems horribly unfair that someone with a genetic issue such as an underbite can't get in, but someone who wants elective surgery to transition from male to female(costs a lot more than underbite correction) can, or well could. In all seriousness if my underbite could, should I decide to use military insurance to have corrective surgery, be a burden and disruption of service that is disqualifying, how is transgender and thus gender transition not.

1bad65
7/26/2017 10:31am,
So obviously Mattis knows a lot more about these things than I do...but I feel like echoing what some of the people here have said. Does cancelling classes on stress management and sexual harassment really seem like a good idea?

It didn't say they were cancelling those classes, just spending less time on them. I'd be curious what any military people here say on this and their experience with classes like this.

I once worked at a company that got pretty PC, and in the 5 years I was there we only had 1 8-hour mandatory class on sexual harassment. It was plenty. By only mandating one class, it allowed us to spend more time actually working and taking technical classes related to the job. That's what the military said here, they need to spend less time on nonsense not related to their jobs and more time at places like rifle ranges.

Raycetpfl
7/26/2017 10:39am,
. That's what the military said here, they need to spend less time on nonsense not related to their jobs and more time at places like rifle ranges. Look at you! Not saying dumb **** for once.

Diesel_tke
7/26/2017 10:41am,
I don't really get the whole transgender issue in the military. Seems, to me that everyone is wearing BDUs most of the time any way. So how do you know a transgender in BDUs and combat boots from a hetero in BDUs and combat boots? I've worked with lots of gays of both genders. You usually can't tell the difference between a lesbian who dresses like a guy and a hetero female who is just cutting her hair short for the sake of being easier to get into uniform in the morning. So, I don't really see one, where it would be an issue and two, how you would even know someone is transgender unless they tell you (when they are in uniform).