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MisterMR
7/18/2017 10:56am,
I found this footage of a tournament I was in in 2013, and I tought I could post it here.

Many gyms/dojos in this part of Italy (between Milano and Varese) have a Nippon Kempo course, and some years ago some instructors tought it was a good idea tho start "KMA", by wich they meant something in between Nippon kempo (that uses heavy protective gear, and has stoppages for ippons) and MMA. This is as far as I can tell the only tournament in this format to date. It uses face protectors and players were instructed to limit themselves in some situations (e.g. dont knee consecutively more than twice your opponent).

More or less half of the pratictioners came from nippon kempo, the others from random other styles (like MMA, kickboxing gyms etc).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q23OlWDZ1S8

I fought at 1:13:31 (I'm the fatty that loses in the end, my opponent also was from Nippon kempo).

https://youtu.be/Q23OlWDZ1S8?t=1h13m31s

BKR
7/18/2017 11:32am,
I found this footage of a tournament I was in in 2013, and I tought I could post it here.

Many gyms/dojos in this part of Italy (between Milano and Varese) have a Nippon Kempo course, and some years ago some instructors tought it was a good idea tho start "KMA", by wich they meant something in between Nippon kempo (that uses heavy protective gear, and has stoppages for ippons) and MMA. This is as far as I can tell the only tournament in this format to date. It uses face protectors and players were instructed to limit themselves in some situations (e.g. dont knee consecutively more than twice your opponent).

More or less half of the pratictioners came from nippon kempo, the others from random other styles (like MMA, kickboxing gyms etc).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q23OlWDZ1S8

I fought at 1:13:31 (I'm the fatty that loses in the end, my opponent also was from Nippon kempo).

https://youtu.be/Q23OlWDZ1S8?t=1h13m31s

That looks like fun!

MisterMR
7/18/2017 4:56pm,
That looks like fun!

Well it was! Only as I was 37 and a smoker I was out of breath after the first 40s.

BackFistMonkey
7/18/2017 5:06pm,
That looks like fun!

Hell yeah it did!

I had a small anxiety attack and possibly some sort of stroke watching those armbars from mount just being hand fed and handed gently to MisterMR tho.

BKR
7/18/2017 5:18pm,
Hell yeah it did!

I had a small anxiety attack and possibly some sort of stroke watching those armbars from mount just being hand fed and handed gently to MisterMR tho.

Yes, I noticed that as well. The missed armbars, not your anxiety attack(s).

Functional throws from clinch, though, were noticed.

MisterMR
7/18/2017 6:14pm,
Yes, I noticed that as well. The missed armbars, not your anxiety attack(s).

Functional throws from clinch, though, were noticed.

Yeah my instructor noticed those missed armbars too, he scolded me a bit afterwards. But the truth is, I was already so tired that I purposedly stayed in a weak mount, in part to take some breath, in part because I hoped that, as the other guy tried to exit from the mount, he also would lose energy.
In part this worked as he was very tired in the next round, but I was also tired so I couldn't capitalize on it.

Btw an armbar scored 3 points (equivalent to 3 punches) but didn't count as TKO.

BKR
7/18/2017 6:20pm,
Yeah my instructor noticed those missed armbars too, he scolded me a bit afterwards. But the truth is, I was already so tired that I purposedly stayed in a weak mount, in part to take some breath, in part because I hoped that, as the other guy tried to exit from the mount, he also would lose energy.
In part this worked as he was very tired in the next round, but I was also tired so I couldn't capitalize on it.

Btw an armbar scored 3 points (equivalent to 3 punches) but didn't count as TKO.

So, if you just broke the guys arm, would that count as a TKO ?

Odd ruleset, in a way...

MisterMR
7/18/2017 6:37pm,
So, if you just broke the guys arm, would that count as a TKO ?

Odd ruleset, in a way...

It would count as hansokumake I suppose.
I think that most of the partecipants were strikers, so they didn't want to give an advantage to grapplers.
Plus, there is the fact that face protectors disadvantage strikers: If I can take all the facepunches I want with no pain, just points to my opponent, but then an armbar means TKO, grapplers could just charge head down the whole match.

This is the problem with protections, that pain in the end is an integral part of striking.

EDIT: armbars with boxe gloves are possible but more difficult, too.

BKR
7/18/2017 7:02pm,
It would count as hansokumake I suppose.
I think that most of the participants were strikers, so they didn't want to give an advantage to grapplers.
Plus, there is the fact that face protectors disadvantage strikers: If I can take all the face-punches I want with no pain, just points to my opponent, but then an arm-bar means TKO, grapplers could just charge head down the whole match.

This is the problem with protections, that pain in the end is an integral part of striking.

EDIT: arm-bars with boxing gloves are possible but more difficult, too.

I guess it's always some sort of compromise to protect participants. Maybe lighter MMA-Style gloves to go with the head protection would make things a bit more painful.

In any case, you should just arm-bar the guys for points, then. Over and over and over again...

Hopefully you have stopped smoking and have gotten better cardio...

MisterMR
7/19/2017 1:34am,
Hopefully you have stopped smoking and have gotten better cardio...

Eeeeh uhm... cough cough, as they say.

BKR
7/19/2017 12:41pm,
Eeeeh uhm... cough cough, as they say.

Nicotine addiction is tough to conquer. You should go to your doctor and get some help.