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Raycetpfl
12/21/2016 5:50pm,
I am interested in maybe getting one. Has anyone ever shot one? Pros vs cons etc.

BKR
12/21/2016 6:00pm,
I am interested in maybe getting one. Has anyone ever shot one? Pros vs cons etc.

LOL, would break my womanly, arthritic wrists...

I suggest you get one of these if you are feeling manly...

https://www.smith-wesson.com/sites/default/files/styles/product_main/public/firearms/images/163501_01_lg_1.jpg?itok=-nTE6PVz]

or better yet, one of these babies...
http://www.gunblast.com/images/SW329PD/DSC00569.jpg

WFMurphyPhD
12/21/2016 6:15pm,
I am interested in maybe getting one. Has anyone ever shot one? Pros vs cons etc.

I owned a BFR for years in 45-70 with the 10 inch barrel.

I used it with metal sights for a couple years and then had it scoped.

The 45-70 round tends to have a rainbow trajectory that requires a lot of practice on that short barrel to get to good brush hunting accuracy comparable to a shotgun slug.

The 45-70 is an expensive round.

Many ranges have issues with you firing the 45-70 on their range.

Having a pistol with the potential to be an accurate large game hunting weapon out to 50 yards or even 100 yards has a lot of attractions,

especially for someone like me who frequently relies on a cane to walk (a pistol in a holster is an easier form factor to tote than a rifle).

Shooting sticks highly recommended / mandatory for hunting with it - at least for me.

I migrated to 357 magnum for my hunting sidearm because I wasn't practicing enough with the 45-70 for all the reasons I mentioned above

BUT I am still thinking about getting another BFR 10 inch revolver this time in the caliber of 30-30 with the hornady revolution polymer tipped 30-30 round to see how accurate I can get with a flatter shooting, less expensive round, that I can in theory practice with at many more indoor (and of course outdoor) ranges.

In 45-70 the BFR 10 inch was a wonderful revolver...The weight of it really reduces felt recoil to a very manageable level.

I hated letting my BFR go, but I was frustrated that I was not living up to its potential due to the hassles with getting enough shooting time with it on a weekly basis.

So, I traded my BFR after years of happy ownership in for some other firearms that I also wanted.

Let me know if you get one and how it goes.

The 45-70 BFR matches nicely with the Marlin SBL (for short range) or Marlin XLR (longer range) for beautiful rifle platforms in the same caliber with a complementary cowboy feel.

Between those platforms you could take on just about any big game with the right round in those weapons, from Africa to Alaska.

If you can manage to get in more regular practice with them than I did...

D Dempsey
12/21/2016 6:22pm,
My dad has a S&W 500 revolver and it's honestly absurd. First of all it's expensive to fire and depending on your location ammo can be hard to find. The biggest thing though is it is absolutely not fun to shoot. The recoil is extreme and can be painful (I have arthritis in my hand/wrist) and the blowback feels like getting punched in the nose. He bought it to hunt with and thinks it's fun, but he's a physical abnormality of a man.

Raycetpfl
12/21/2016 6:28pm,
I owned a BFR for years in 45-70 with the 10 inch barrel.

I used it with metal sights for a couple years and then had it scoped.

The 45-70 round tends to have a rainbow trajectory that requires a lot of practice on that short barrel to get to good brush hunting accuracy comparable to a shotgun slug.

The 45-70 is an expensive round.

Many ranges have issues with you firing the 45-70 on their range.

Having a pistol with the potential to be an accurate large game hunting weapon out to 50 yards or even 100 yards has a lot of attractions,

especially for someone like me who frequently relies on a cane to walk (a pistol in a holster is an easier form factor to tote than a rifle).

Shooting sticks highly recommended / mandatory for hunting with it - at least for me.

I migrated to 357 magnum for my hunting sidearm because I wasn't practicing enough with the 45-70 for all the reasons I mentioned above

BUT I am still thinking about getting another BFR 10 inch revolver this time in the caliber of 30-30 with the hornady revolution polymer tipped 30-30 round to see how accurate I can get with a flatter shooting, less expensive round, that I can in theory practice with at many more indoor (and of course outdoor) ranges.

In 45-70 the BFR 10 inch was a wonderful revolver...The weight of it really reduces felt recoil to a very manageable level.

I hated letting my BFR go, but I was frustrated that I was not living up to its potential due to the hassles with getting enough shooting time with it on a weekly basis.

So, I traded my BFR after years of happy ownership in for some other firearms that I also wanted.

Let me know if you get one and how it goes.

The 45-70 BFR matches nicely with the Marlin SBL (for short range) or Marlin XLR (longer range) for beautiful rifle platforms in the same caliber with a complementary cowboy feel.

Between those platforms you could take on just about any big game with the right round in those weapons, from Africa to Alaska.

If you can manage to get in more regular practice with them than I did...

Thanks Murphy! I really appreciate the info. I have a .454 but I have to buy ammo online and i just don't have time made time to learn to reload. I would like to have the option to just go to the Walmart and buy ammo.
45/70 is an expensive but common round.

Have you hunted with 30/30 before? Do you like it for local game?

BKR
12/21/2016 6:30pm,
My dad has a S&W 500 revolver and it's honestly absurd. First of all it's expensive to fire and depending on your location ammo can be hard to find. The biggest thing though is it is absolutely not fun to shoot. The recoil is extreme and can be painful (I have arthritis in my hand/wrist) and the blowback feels like getting punched in the nose. He bought it to hunt with and thinks it's fun, but he's a physical abnormality of a man.

You know how Rayce posts, I'd say he would fit right in with you Dad...

Raycetpfl
12/21/2016 6:31pm,
LOL, would break my womanly, arthritic wrists...

I suggest you get one of these if you are feeling manly...

https://www.smith-wesson.com/sites/default/files/styles/product_main/public/firearms/images/163501_01_lg_1.jpg?itok=-nTE6PVz]

or better yet, one of these babies...
http://www.gunblast.com/images/SW329PD/DSC00569.jpg

I have a Blackhawk in 44. And a Super Redhawk in .454.
I am looking hard at That airlite. 44 in 4inch.

WFMurphyPhD
12/21/2016 6:36pm,
Thanks Murphy! I really appreciate the info. I have a .454 but I have to buy ammo online and i just don't have time made time to learn to reload. I would like to have the option to just go to the Walmart and buy ammo.
45/70 is an expensive but common round.

Have you hunted with 30/30 before? Do you like it for local game?

It is a lot of fun to take wild pigs with a 30-30 lever rifle.

I have had the pleasure of taking a pig or two with a basic marlin 30-30 with iron sights.

The Hornady Lever Revolution 30-30 round extends the effective range quite a bit if you practice with it.

I also took quite a small buck with my Marlin XLR 45-70 before I traded that rifle in along with my BFR for some 357 magnum general purpose pistols.

A lot of deer have been taken across this nation with the 30-30 round.

Between a stock Walmart Marlin 30-30 with iron sights and a stock Walmart Remington 700 in 30-06

(both of those rifles come ready to shoot from Walmart for around $400 each),

there is not much you can't do, especially if you throw in a decent shotgun and .22 rifle to the mix.

PS - avoid the Remington 770, which Walmart also sells.
The Remington 770 is not the same platform as the Remington 700 and not worth the slight discount saved compared to getting the Remington 700.

I have taken more game with my Walmart $400 Remington 700 30-06 than all of my other firearms combined.

Raycetpfl
12/21/2016 6:47pm,
It is a lot of fun to take wild pigs with a 30-30 lever rifle.


I was curious of your thoughts on pigs with the 30/30.
I am a firm believer in overkill so I have always skipped over the round and either went to .308 or 30/06 or 7.62x54 for my 30 cal. I know a lot of people like the 30/30 but I can't ever remember shooting one.

WFMurphyPhD
12/21/2016 6:51pm,
I was curious of your thoughts on pigs with the 30/30.
I am a firm believer in overkill so I have always skipped over the round and either went to .308 or 30/06 or 7.62x54 for my 30 cal. I know a lot of people like the 30/30 but I can't ever remember shooting one.

The 30-30 is strictly for hunting ranges of less than 100 yards

(or less than 200 yards with the new polymer tipped versions of the 30-30 round such as the Hornady Lever Revolution).

But there is a certain nostalgic charm to taking a lever action rifle with iron sights and filling your freezer full of meat with it,

especially if you are hunting in a brush/swamp and not along a citrus grove lane where farther shots might be available.

Raycetpfl
12/21/2016 6:54pm,
I have taken more game with my Walmart $400 Remington 700 30-06 than all of my other firearms combined.

I actually have a ruger American in .308 for hunting. I was down to a darn near coin flip between the two but i decided on the American because it was lighter.
I would like a 700 with a bull barrel and all that for target shooting.

BKR
12/21/2016 7:51pm,
I have a Blackhawk in 44. And a Super Redhawk in .454.
I am looking hard at That airlite. 44 in 4inch.

My wife has a Ruger LCR in .38 Special+P.

That thing kicks with 148 grain wadcutter target loads. With full house +P self defense loads, it's a handful.

They make the same thing in .357 Magnum... I only want to imagine the recoil, but I've read it is brutal. Same with the .357 Airlight

The .44 Mag airlight will be wayyyyy more of the same, from what I have read.

Whatever you do, don't buy a Taurus....

BKR
12/21/2016 7:55pm,
I actually have a ruger American in .308 for hunting. I was down to a darn near coin flip between the two but i decided on the American because it was lighter.
I would like a 700 with a bull barrel and all that for target shooting.

I bought my wife a .308 Win. Ruger American. I love her rifle, cost less than $400. She is 3 for 3 on deer. 165 grain Federal Fusion ammo, works like a charm. About as cheap and simple as you can get, LOL. I already had a scope, just had to buy rings.
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15181200_10207840390107809_8125245926080658576_n.j pg?oh=5b30faedc12f371e5edc4c24cd130dbd&oe=58AF392D

BKR
12/21/2016 7:58pm,
Rayce, you already have a .308, that will kill anything in Florida and beyond...

Tons of factory ammo available from cheap and effective (Federal Fusion), to various brands loaded with premium bullets.

rnc357
12/21/2016 9:02pm,
I am interested in maybe getting one. Has anyone ever shot one? Pros vs cons etc.

A friend has the 45/70, very large long cylinder. I have never shot that one. I have done a quite a bit of shooting with the 8 3/8" barrel 500, the weight and the compensator help but the recoil is impressive. Ammo is expensive and these are very large guns, in many ways it's just as easy to carry a light weight carbine. A good shooting glove is a must IMO. I usually wear double ear protection, plugs and muffs. They are a lot of fun though. I own a S&W 460XVR another very fast hard hitting big bore with the advantage of being able to also chamber 45 colt and .454 Casull. I recommend it over the 45/70 or 500 due to the versatility.

rnc357
12/21/2016 9:12pm,
LOL, would break my womanly, arthritic wrists...

I suggest you get one of these if you are feeling manly...

https://www.smith-wesson.com/sites/default/files/styles/product_main/public/firearms/images/163501_01_lg_1.jpg?itok=-nTE6PVz]

or better yet, one of these babies...
http://www.gunblast.com/images/SW329PD/DSC00569.jpg

My son owns the air light .44. I grew up shooting double action revolvers and have competed with a 4" 686 357 for years. I can shoot some fast double action times with my .357. With the lightweight 44 the recoil is stout, it is quite a challenge to get back on target rapidly, for me anyway. It is a very nice packing gun but not fun to shoot.
Your wife's buck is very nice BTW, I use a .308 for all my medium/big game hunting. Very Versatile cartridge.