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Atlatl
9/13/2016 11:56am,
A friend asked me what I thought of Anti Terror Combat: antiterrorcombat (dotcom) as she was thinking of attending a seminar in her home town.

I've looked at website/ Facebook and all their videos on YouTube
and it seems to me that the they are teaching techniques that work really well against someone standing very still.

It worries me that systems like this that profess to teach self protection may simply be putting people in danger by having their students believe they can handle themselves in aggressive situations.

I am going to recommend my friend not to go to this class but I thought I'd like to get your views.

Fire at will...

Christmas Spirit
9/13/2016 12:10pm,
well here is their Youtube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrOdVFW7kmE6Z5wCnyUTabg

Here is the video which is on the front page of their website http://www.antiterrorcombat.com

The Meet the Team page has plenty of red flags ranging from http://antiterrorcombat.com/meet-the-team/

For the last 5 years I have practiced meditation under the guidance of Buddhist monks at my local monastery, this is still ongoing with the insight to teach and help others to find inner peace.

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Master Horst Lindenau has 30 years of martial arts training, most of this time as a graduated sports teacher and black belt holder of several disciplines. Training of police units and security staff also included, as special self defence courses for rape victims and of course 1000’s of students who wanted to learn martial art and self defence of this great master. Today there are several masters and grandmasters worldwide that have studied under master Horst Lindenau and been his students for years.

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Martial artist Steve Powell looks back to a busy life with British Army service, security work in the private sector and training students in the art of Karate. His journey into martial arts started in his childhood, he first trained in the traditional Japanese style Wado-Ryu. After reaching black belt he then moved on to a new style Shotokan Karate and also trained in kick boxing and the Russian art systema to build on the martial art knowledge he had already gained.


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and let us not over look their four tiered membership plans
http://antiterrorcombat.com/product/anti-terror-combat-basic-membership/


These guys appear to be useless and out for your money.
I haven't gone through the videos yet, so it may get even better.

goodlun
9/13/2016 12:17pm,
I think you should share this thread with her

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=125904

Any sort of self protection seminar is generally going to be pretty bad.
Fighting is a complex thing and its not something that can be learned in a few hours.
Self Defense requires the ability to fight.
This is the way I look at it, lets take Chess, sure you could go to a seminar and learn how the different pieces work, you can learn the rules. They can teach you the queens gambit or some other series of moves.
However would you seriously want to bet your well being on your ability to win a chess match after that seminar?

Christmas Spirit
9/13/2016 12:18pm,
These guys have to be Satire.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2BQhMrHGqk

There is no way ^that^ was serious or could be taken seriously by anyone who has ever swung a baseball bat.

Atlatl
9/13/2016 12:51pm,
Thanks for your replies guys, they confirm what I suspected (that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing).

I think I would advocate that my friend keep fit, vigilant and out of trouble.

Christmas Spirit
9/13/2016 1:09pm,
Thanks for your replies guys, they confirm what I suspected (that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing).

I think I would advocate that my friend keep fit, vigilant and out of trouble.

Judo and BJJ have proven track records in and out of the sport environment. There are methods of self defense that work and none of them are gender specific. Hard training in an alive environment on a regular basis (2+ hours a week) is the the only way to increase your level self defense skills without adding weapons and weapon training... and then again you have the problem of it is not a short cut. You still have train regularly with good instruction.

Raycetpfl
9/13/2016 1:20pm,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2BQhMrHGqk
I would like to point out that they are in fact wearing ninja shoes. I don't think that there's any Footwear that can remove credibility in quite the same way.

Christmas Spirit
9/13/2016 1:28pm,
Here is the web site for Horst Lindenau (chief instructor) actual school. It looks pretty lame. I haven't dug into it yet tho.

http://jiu-jitsuinbridport.blogspot.com/

Steve Powell shares a name with a number of douchebags ranging from kidnappers to pedophiles so he is kinda hard to look up ... Melvyn Wright claims to have taught firearms for 15 years but I can't find anything on him except some stuff about being a British Organ Grinder and Busker.

I am sure we can find more specifics in time.

Oh found another one of Horsts sites.. and this one has Steve on it too.

http://ichinenbridport.com/



This martial arts school is specialized in realistic street self defence. Master Horst is a former Anti-Terrorkampf Master (German based self defence system) and our self defence training is based on real life situations combined with use of modern video technology and psycho drills. All trainings are suitable for men and women. You can join at any time and beginners are very welcome. For the Anti Terror Combat training you need to be minimum 16 years old. You can join the Jiu-Jitsu lessons if you over 13 years old.

specialized in realistic street self defence

BKR
9/13/2016 1:41pm,
Well, that's a authentic looking certificate what with the sharpie-in name and rank...

issuer of the certificate: http://www.maa-i.com/

http://jiu-jitsuinbridport.blogspot.com/

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GF1cHgY34g4/V69Og807nSI/AAAAAAAABT0/Z36vA19Ff6AE424JkPC_4Ffjo_ZcaVBxwCLcB/s640/2.Dan%2BJiu%2BJitsu%2BCertificate%2BMaster%2BHorst %2BLindenau%2BMAA%2BI.jpg

BKR
9/13/2016 1:44pm,
http://www.maa-i.com/repraesentant/index.html

I mean, how much more blatant can it get ?

BKR
9/13/2016 1:49pm,
https://grandmastersoto.ning.com/profile/ProfAnthonyJacksonOAMASM

So this is one of their members...Anthony Jackson

and look at that..

FOUNDER SOKE. GRANDMASTER IRVING SOTO OF THE WARLORD MARTIAL ARTS MAGAZINE

Atlatl
9/13/2016 1:58pm,
The more you dig the more bunkum appears. The ichinenbridport site "Life Coaching" links - oh my.

Atlatl
9/13/2016 2:01pm,
I would like to point out that they are in fact wearing ninja shoes. I don't think that there's any Footwear that can remove credibility in quite the same way.

Hahahah!
Thanks for that I needed a laugh.

Atlatl
9/13/2016 2:04pm,
Judo and BJJ have proven track records in and out of the sport environment. There are methods of self defense that work and none of them are gender specific. Hard training in an alive environment on a regular basis (2+ hours a week) is the the only way to increase your level self defense skills without adding weapons and weapon training... and then again you have the problem of it is not a short cut. You still have train regularly with good instruction.

Very good point. Thank you.

Christmas Spirit
9/13/2016 3:02pm,
This guy is so full of ****, I am almost speechless.
Almost.
http://jiu-jitsuinbridport.blogspot.co.uk/


My highest martial art grade is a 6th Dan in Anti Terror Combat. Beside that I hold a 1st Dan in TerLiMa, 1st Dan British Street fighting, 2nd Dan Anti-Terrorkampf and I got awarded the 2nd Dan Atemi Combat. If you like to train with me, direct or online go to www.antiterrorcombat.com or http://jiu-jitsuinbridport.blogspot.co.uk/ and www.ichinenbridport.com

I can't decide if I like the "2nd Dan Atemi Combat" or the "1st Dan British Street Fighting rank more ...

Can someone save that site for me? I am not on my own hardware at the moment.

screen shot link
https://i.imgur.com/SNkhJpF.jpg

Christmas Spirit
9/13/2016 3:16pm,
He also offers private one on ones... teaching "Tantra Yoga and deep and profound meditation techniques" http://ichinenbridport.com/meditation/

I can't help but wonder...

https://i.imgur.com/ARVOyDQ.jpg