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DCS
10/28/2015 7:24am,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DBmNVHTmNs

Seems to be well done. I think WMA people around here will find it interesting.

Jim Giant
12/23/2015 11:07am,
Saw this the day it came out, I remember having a couple of disagreements with some of the people in the video but nothing major. Overall great production.

HEMA does a number of things very well:

There is a heavy enthesis on context. We learn where techniques will work, where they wont and and why (armoured vs unarmoured, sparring vs self defence, etc).

Avoiding sportification. The weapons are designed to feel as much like the originals as possible, points are only awarded for decent strikes/cuts, penalties for being hit by an afterblow, grappling etc is allowed.

No supreme leaders and the ability to question things, testing ideas, tournaments mixing styles and weeding out bullshit.

HEMA is still very much in it's infancy though, we're probably at about the point MMA was in 1980. It'll be very interesting to see how it develops. Hopefully sportification and over the top health and safety don't ruin it.

Bneterasedmynam
5/27/2016 3:12pm,
Saw this the day it came out, I remember having a couple of disagreements with some of the people in the video but nothing major. Overall great production.

HEMA does a number of things very well:

There is a heavy enthesis on context. We learn where techniques will work, where they wont and and why (armoured vs unarmoured, sparring vs self defence, etc).

Avoiding sportification. The weapons are designed to feel as much like the originals as possible, points are only awarded for decent strikes/cuts, penalties for being hit by an afterblow, grappling etc is allowed.

No supreme leaders and the ability to question things, testing ideas, tournaments mixing styles and weeding out bullshit.

HEMA is still very much in it's infancy though, we're probably at about the point MMA was in 1980. It'll be very interesting to see how it develops. Hopefully sportification and over the top health and safety don't ruin it.

I would be more worried about money ruining it. Commercialism and such.

Jim Giant
5/27/2016 3:33pm,
I would be more worried about money ruining it. Commercialism and such.

I think they're heavily linked. Trying to appeal to a wider audience via commercialism would lead to over the top health and safety and sportification so pussies won't be put off from joining.

Jim Giant
5/27/2016 3:37pm,
I would be more worried about money ruining it. Commercialism and such.

I think they're heavily linked. Trying to appeal to a wider audience via commercialism would lead to over the top health and safety and sportification so pussies won't be put off from joining.

MMA has had plenty of rule changes to make things safer over the years (some I agree with, most I don't), for a point based martial art like HEMA things could get a lot worse.

BKR
5/27/2016 5:26pm,
I think they're heavily linked. Trying to appeal to a wider audience via commercialism would lead to over the top health and safety and sportification so pussies won't be put off from joining.

I think this already happened in Japan with Kenjutsu/kendo in the 19th century. So it's highly likely.



I'm sure our resident kendo rokyudan will correct me if I'm wrong.