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pete.m
9/06/2015 11:31am,
http://ktla.com/2015/09/04/would-be-burglar-shot-with-his-own-gun-by-santa-ana-homeowner/

Devil
9/07/2015 10:17am,
Good for that guy.

And just in case anyone is confused....Krav Maga still sucks. You can find instances where people who train in any type of martial art have defended themselves successfully. And instances where people with no training at all defended themselves successfully. It doesn't mean Krav Maga isn't ****.

pete.m
9/07/2015 11:04am,
I agree with your first paragraph wholeheartedly.

But Bullshido has a lack of balance when it comes to posting success stories about RBSD or combative systems. There's not doubt in my mind if this had been an MMA / Judo / BJJ etc guy this would have been on the FB page and at the core of a bukakke party on here.

W. Rabbit
9/07/2015 11:13am,
There is already a thread on this.

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=124839

DCS
9/07/2015 11:18am,
There's not doubt in my mind if this had been an MMA / Judo / BJJ etc guy this would have been on the FB page and at the core of a bukakke party on here.

You are wrong.

As you can see from Monique Bastos case, she's not in the FB page nor there has been much ado about her defeating her attackers.

W. Rabbit
9/07/2015 11:20am,
You are wrong.

As you can see from Monique Bastos case, she's not in the FB page nor there has been much ado about her defeating her attackers.

Oh you're being modest she didn't just defeat him, she made him say "matte", Bloodsport style.

ermghoti
9/07/2015 11:22am,
I agree with your first paragraph wholeheartedly.

But Bullshido has a lack of balance when it comes to posting success stories about RBSD or combative systems.

That's due to a lack of success stories, not a bias.


There's not doubt in my mind if this had been an MMA / Judo / BJJ etc guy this would have been on the FB page and at the core of a bukakke party on here.

Nope. Some TKD dork kicked a gun out of a robber's hand. We talked about it. Conclusions: not a good idea, and TKD is for pussies.

But, sincerely, if you see stuff, post it. I have to admit, my first reaction involved the words "blind squirrel," but there's no reason to have a moratorium on stories about un-bullshido-approved arts.

EDIT:



In the video Erickson claims he was not afraid of the gun because he had training in Krav Maga.

If that's true, that's the harshest condemnation of KM I've seen. If your self-defense art is teaching you to be confident about gun disarms, fucking run out of that place.

W. Rabbit
9/07/2015 11:29am,
I agree with your first paragraph wholeheartedly.

But Bullshido has a lack of balance when it comes to posting success stories about RBSD or combative systems. There's not doubt in my mind if this had been an MMA / Judo / BJJ etc guy this would have been on the FB page and at the core of a bukakke party on here.

That's because when MMA/Judo/BJJ people use their **** successfully every single day of the year, it's not a big deal.

The guys who stopped the terrorist on the train had both BJJ and military combatives training, right? They made the news here.

Most KM/RBSD schools don't use their **** successfully, ever (unless they include something akin to MMA/Judo/BJJ in their curriculum).

So what...guy disarms intruder...also takes KM classes...to quote Garfield...big, fat, hairy deal. It's not like he's an Israeli commando.

And hey, what odds do you give him for pulling off the gun disarm...twice?

BackFistMonkey
9/07/2015 12:12pm,
I agree with your first paragraph wholeheartedly.

But Bullshido has a lack of balance when it comes to posting success stories about RBSD or combative systems. There's not doubt in my mind if this had been an MMA / Judo / BJJ etc guy this would have been on the FB page and at the core of a bukakke party on here.
That is because you attribute your own bias and shitty behavior to others.

The only time "we" get all excited is when it makes international or national news. Like the situation in France. RSBD is useless unless you're sparring on the regular, at solid contact, with good rule sets which approximate reality safely. The problem is if you are doing that, what you are learning is shitty knife work, gun theory, boxing, kickboxing, and grappling from someone who is probably not qualified to teach any of those much less all of them.

So yeah ... ... your logic not very sound.



If that's true, that's the harshest condemnation of KM I've seen. If your self-defense art is teaching you to be confident about gun disarms, fucking run out of that place.

Pfft. It's just a gun you *****. I bet you would run from a knife too. Grow some balls and learn how to catch bullets out the air like Brandon Lee.

ermghoti
9/07/2015 2:14pm,
Grow some balls and learn how to catch bullets out the air like Brandon Lee.

Good point. Brandon Lee is documented to have caught one bullet. We should all learn from him.

ermghoti
9/07/2015 2:16pm,
Random thought: what's the chance the second guy turns up, and has a radically different recollection of the event?

ermghoti
9/07/2015 6:33pm,
The Krav giveth, and the Krav taketh away.

http://www.facebook.com/UrbanKrav/videos/943640699014893/

The Cap
9/07/2015 6:47pm,
The Krav giveth, and the Krav taketh away.

http://www.facebook.com/UrbanKrav/videos/943640699014893/

Dead link. Was it something about a terrible triangle choke? Their FB page is showing some visitor comments about a **** triangle choke.
#thelegsstillformatriangle

ermghoti
9/07/2015 7:28pm,
Dead link. Was it something about a terrible triangle choke? Their FB page is showing some visitor comments about a **** triangle choke.
#thelegsstillformatriangle

Yeah, an "analysis" and "defense" of the Batos choke, except the buffoon didn't notice the arm in, which he then tried to rationalize.

BackFistMonkey
9/07/2015 11:31pm,
link is dead ... pertinence missing.

iPete
9/08/2015 4:43am,
Video was hilarious. He kept using the free arm to get himself out of the 'triangle'. Smug, arrogant, ill informed, hilarious.