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infidel
4/25/2004 1:37pm,
the best way to pull guard is to fall down on to your back before making any contact with the person and wait for them to come grapple with you. then when they do, AHa! guard!

Greese
4/25/2004 1:58pm,
Except for those of us that will stand there and point and laugh untill you are forced to get up.
I also use my geronimo guard pass on those people. You know, I run as fast as I can, jump as high as I can and slam down on the person. I figure if you want to lay on the ground, you have no problem being stepped on.
A much better idea is learning how to grapple standing.

mikus
4/25/2004 2:09pm,
If you plan on pulling guard, AT LEAST try tomoenage EVERY TIME.

infidel
4/25/2004 2:26pm,
no no, tomeonage requires that you grab hold of the person by their shoulders/lapel BEFORE you fall on your back/ass. this is wrong. the best way to pull guard is to just fall and wait.

infidel
4/25/2004 2:39pm,
probably what he did wrong was try to exert some sort of attack first. thats probably why you guys think guard pulling is such a bad idea. the trick is to just fall on your back at the first sign of danger.

Greese
4/25/2004 3:17pm,
If you MUST pull guard, try and get a shitotine...which is a really crappy guillotine.
Can get them in a nice tight closed guard.
I don't like tomonage all that much no gi...I have a rough time making it work since my legs are pretty long.

WhiteShark
4/25/2004 4:54pm,
Or, Don't.

Jenfucius
4/25/2004 5:04pm,
try asking your girlfriend.

Omega Supreme
4/25/2004 6:38pm,
I can't believe you asked this question Piz. Pulling guard is the sign of the desperate. Those who pull guard should be slammed on their head just out of principal. You pull guard only when neccessary. Grow some ballz guys and don't ever ask this question again.

Omar
4/25/2004 7:17pm,
I'll second that.

I can't figure out how it would be difficult to pull. It seems like instinct for me. Not like one of my BJJ virgin sacrifices who throw their legs around my waist like cheap whore. I mean, when I know I have fucked up and my feet have already left the ground already . . . just grab on.

Deadpan Scientist
4/25/2004 8:04pm,
you can pull butterfly guard pretty easily. Just put both feet about an inch apart in the middle of their legs and get a neck clinch (then sit down). Sweep on the way down if you can.

DJeter1234
4/25/2004 8:10pm,
"I can't believe you asked this question Piz. Pulling guard is the sign of the desperate. Those who pull guard should be slammed on their head just out of principal. You pull guard only when neccessary. Grow some ballz guys and don't ever ask this question again."

i just got a great image of the scientist outright slamming chris cutan (i think, sp) pretending to be the monkey on SNL

Deadpan Scientist
4/25/2004 8:19pm,
Pizd: is this for vale tudo(with strikes?) or just plain grappling?

Omar
4/25/2004 11:42pm,
Originally posted by PizDoff
ballz? why the "z"?



Cuz if your gonna do it right they should be DragonBallz!!!

Greese
4/26/2004 12:00am,
Well, to do flying techs you don't want to be pulling guard, not the best way to do it.

Osu
4/27/2004 3:58pm,
Originally posted by infidel
the best way to pull guard is to fall down on to your back before making any contact with the person and wait for them to come grapple with you. then when they do, AHa! guard!

So you mean it wasn't because of my chi-balls that those BJJ guys fell hopelessly to the floor, unable to get back on their feet and fight? Crap...