Wonder how BJJ works on the battle field, when bullets, knives are flying, teams of guys storming in from one front or another and your locked up with a guy on the ground? Or lets say in a bar fight when a dozen guys are looking to just stomp on people, how does that locking up do and going to the ground? No one "thing" is a cure all for everything. Obvoiusly BJJ has its place, as does wrestling, boxing, kicking, etc. What can fighter get from WC? Inside fighting skills, redirection of energy, converging energy, low kicks, angular attacks. Now combine these things with other fighting skills and you can be an effective fighter in MMA. This one style is the best or worst is idiotic and closed minded. Even a wrestler can use WC principles, closing the gap lets say. Krav Maga is a great defensive system, will it work in MMA? Who knows, but elements of it can round out a fighter.

Do you need the threads? Do you need the confirmed military people who have used BJJ in the theater of operations? Do you need the military program information that uses MMA and BJJ? Do you need the articles of MMAer and BJJers using their skills on the street? Don't bring that weak sauce ignorant trolling **** in here.

No one said cure-all that is your red herring.

Wonder how BJJ works on the battle field, when bullets, knives are flying, teams of guys storming in from one front or another and your locked up with a guy on the ground? Or lets say in a bar fight when a dozen guys are looking to just stomp on people, how does that locking up do and going to the ground? No one "thing" is a cure all for everything. Obvoiusly BJJ has its place, as does wrestling, boxing, kicking, etc. What can fighter get from WC? Inside fighting skills, redirection of energy, converging energy, low kicks, angular attacks. Now combine these things with other fighting skills and you can be an effective fighter in MMA. This one style is the best or worst is idiotic and closed minded. Even a wrestler can use WC principles, closing the gap lets say. Krav Maga is a great defensive system, will it work in MMA? Who knows, but elements of it can round out a fighter.

BJJ kicks butt over WC when it comes to trapping, inside punching, and kicking (especially flying kicks) and BJJ practitioners know one punch knockouts, weapons defense and an almost supernatural ability to detect danger. Very useful battlefield skills. If you think BJJ is only an effective method of grappling, you have never worked with someone with the true lineage, never been in a real battlefield, and never had to use your martial art to clear a full on bar fight that spreads to the streets and the police are afraid to show up.

I see a Clawhammer/Brother Daniel love affair coming soon.
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The thing is I don't need a martial art designed for fighting in a war zone because I don't live in Sudan. If you're worried about getting shot buy a bullet-proof vest and your own gun.

Wonder how BJJ works on the battle field, when bullets, knives are flying, teams of guys storming in from one front or another and your locked up with a guy on the ground? Or lets say in a bar fight when a dozen guys are looking to just stomp on people, how does that locking up do and going to the ground? No one "thing" is a cure all for everything. Obvoiusly BJJ has its place, as does wrestling, boxing, kicking, etc. What can fighter get from WC? Inside fighting skills, redirection of energy, converging energy, low kicks, angular attacks. Now combine these things with other fighting skills and you can be an effective fighter in MMA. This one style is the best or worst is idiotic and closed minded. Even a wrestler can use WC principles, closing the gap lets say. Krav Maga is a great defensive system, will it work in MMA? Who knows, but elements of it can round out a fighter.
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I'm not sure if I'm bored enough today to play with this troll... hmmm

Bjj was designed specifically FOR the battlefield.

In middle ages Europe, where bjj was originally developed, it was common to wear full plate-mail armour. If you fell in combat, it was often too heavy to get back up unassisted. In those circumstances, being able to fight on the ground isn't just useful, it's essential.

A quick look at history through the eyes of Asian cinema, it's easy to see how wing chin developed so differently. When Chinese people fight, their hollow bones make it difficult to stay on the ground, so they fly about a lot when they do big flappy armed Kung fu. Wing chum counteracted this with the straight centreline punching. Old habits die hard though, so many chunners prefer to fight on tables in order to maintain an elevated altitude

Medieval Europe is way too late to claim it was developed. A lot of the techniques were mature when Alexander got to India. A lot of shaolin temple stuff got to the art as they came back but it was weak crap. My top master woot has a scroll that explains it in detail. He has told me awesome stories about BJJ use through all major wars. He fought no holds barred in hong kong with a record of 277 and 0.

I dont need any threads, but for you BJJ nutz, get a grip, certain things work from any system. Your cure all BJJ BS is tiresome, I simply stated principles from any system can be applied to MMA. My points stand, principles from many things can be used, and I have. If you dont want people to respond to threads, WHY have a DISCUSSION forum numnutz? I have a style you can try...secret form of kung fu...called GO FU

Even a wrestler can use WC principles, closing the gap lets say.
It would be very smart for any wrestler to crosstrain in WC to learn to close the gap, since that principle is probably never taught in wrestling itself.

Your cure all BJJ BS is tiresome
<<looks at my style>> Nice strawman.


I simply stated principles from any system can be applied to MMA.
This is the sort of crap Systema practitioners say as well. No one has said that all of _ing __un sucks. With ANY style its a question of how much sucks vs. how much is useful and can be applied when the **** hits the fan.

Fighting/sparring under a MMA ruleset is (IMHO) the best option civilians have for testing their training. Yes, your training may have a ground component, but can you apply it when an opponent is attempting to demolish you from mount?


My points stand, principles from many things can be used, and I have. If you dont want people to respond to threads, WHY have a DISCUSSION forum numnutz?
Principles are unimportant to me. Philosophy is unimportant to me. What is practical and applicable is what I am interested in. I wasted too much of my life learning philosophy and principles and skipping the lessons on the **** I could actually pull of in a fight. Quit thinking you're unique, or that you've espoused some new truth. You're regurgitating the same old bullshit people have heard on this board since its inception.


I have a style you can try...secret form of kung fu...called GO FU
Ninjer, please. You can go **** yourself instead.

Wait, what? BJJ doesn't work on Battlefields?? Is he the anti-grapple???

Is this true for all Australians?

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An Australian, scoffing at your armbar attempt, earlier.

Your cure all BJJ BS is tiresome
Yawn.

I simply stated principles from any system can be applied to MMA. My points stand, principles from many things can be used, and I have.
Great, where have you fought and what's your record?

What can fighter get from WC?

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Is this true for all Australians?


yes.

I dont need any threads, but for you BJJ nutz, get a grip, certain things work from any system. Your cure all BJJ BS is tiresome, I simply stated principles from any system can be applied to MMA. My points stand, principles from many things can be used, and I have. If you dont want people to respond to threads, WHY have a DISCUSSION forum numnutz? I have a style you can try...secret form of kung fu...called GO FUWhere does it say "discussion" is a synonym for " ignorance?" Nowhere.

I came across this thread during my daily googling of myself and I understand that clawhammer has some questions.

First off, yes, BJJ is very effective on me, provided you have trained longer and/ or harder than me, thanks for asking. Being that Sydney is in the grips of a bikie war and the cops have no qualms in shooting first and dealing with the media later, with all the bullets and knives around plus the teams of guys in class, yeah, BJJ is very effective. Again, thanks for asking but it is becoming apparent you have **** all idea what you are talking about.

Bar fights? Stomping? Once again, it appears you are extremely ignorant on this topic. I'm not. Hell, I've probably been involved (at some level) in more brawls than all the Krav Maga and Wing Chun instructionals you've masturbated to on youtube. Then again, I wouldn't "lock up and go to ground" in that situation. Do you think BJJ removes self preservation in favour of landing a sick submission? Do you think BJJ=stupid?

Also, nobody said BJJ is a cure all. You are a moron.

Also, you can learn all those things you think WC teaches you. "Inside fighting skills, redirection of energy, converging energy, low kicks, angular attacks"? This guy's bloodstream is so affected that Sifus the world over call on him to bloodlet so they can get to the purest koolaid.

Once again, YOU ARE THE ONLY DOUCHE SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT ONE STYLE IS BEST. Bullshido as a community advocates CROSS TRAINING. You either haven't read much in the site, or you're illiterate, or you're a moron. I have stopped taking bets because the odds on the first two aren't worth it.


Little known fact about the OP. On his first day of school the teacher sat the kids in a circle and they played a game, "what's my name and how did I get it?"

The first little girl to the teachers left stood up and said, "I'm Rose Petal! When I was born and in the hospital, one of the roses my grandma gave my mum landed on my head and so my parents called me that."

"That's very nice," said the teacher.

The second child in the circle stood up and said, "I'm Cherry Blossom! My parents didn't make it to the hospital in time so I was born outside and Cherry Blossoms fell from the trees on to my head and they thought that was great name for me!"

"Wonderful," said the teacher.

Suddenly the OP stood up out of turn and screamed, "HRGUNFAEFJJDEWSSS wqdienwq Wdhasidneefdn WD adaqisd!"

"And you must be clawhammer!"