She's gonna regret that once she gets to the dere-dere phase. (http://img1.sankakustatic.com/wp-content/gallery/misc-images-xxv/unsanitary-circumcision-by-774.jpg)

I think your phimosis may have cut off the circulation to your brain. We're talking a small risk over a lifespan that can be significantly reduced with education if doctors weren't so ready to cut it off.

And adults enjoying a better sex life after the snip is hilarious. Of course they would, they NEEDED the snip, they probably had acute phimosis or something else that would hinder or make significantly painful fucking in the first place.

So....small risk over a lifetime, meaning that the risk starts out higher than gradually dwindles, whereas the small risk at the time of circumcision remains a constant.

Still not helping your cause, man.

Well, obviously specific sex lives will require specific answers... do you have their numbers? Message them to me and I'll start texting them tomorrow. Are you one of these men? If so, please inform me as to how circumcision has made your sex life better... if I can't find fault with your experience, you may have a convert to the cause. I have a pair of scissors and some whisky next to the lap top.

However, if the tenor of your argument is the whole 'reduced sensation makes for more vigorous and longer lasting sex' I would reply that cutting into your genitals is a VERY POOR substitute for self control. I have trained in taoist sexology, tantra, and western sexology over the last twelve years and have no problem enjoying very vigorous sex for long periods of time. What's more, most normal men can learn to do this within two to four weeks. No circumcision necessary. Please note that I'm not saying circumcision doesn't result in more vigorous sex, just that it's a poor substitute for an actual education on how to use your johnson.

If, of course, you're referring to medical complications that are relieved by circumcision, then I completely support their assertions and concede that in such rare cases, circumcision is wholly appropriate and massively beneficial.


If you do your own research into it, like I did, you'll find that there are men who, post-circumcision, find their sex lives improved. They report more sensitivity, better quality of penetration and an overall more pleasant experience with their partners.

The point I'm making is that there are indeed men who have have found their sexual experiences improved by circumcision. This is not to say that there is a definitive 'you will have a better sex life if you are circumcised'...that's a blanket statement which is impossible to state as absolute truth. I'm merely pointing that circumcision, as far as sex goes, can result in better sex for some men.

Southpark did an episode about this methinks.

The risk of post op MRSA infection out ways your rare condition enormously! There case closed.

Perhaps I should have my nose surgically removed. Then I won't have to worry about it getting broken. Doctors tell me there would be no harm.

Any doctor who says a surgical procedure can't cause any sort of harm is a freaking moron!

Dude, you have to be a troll. The fact that ANY surgical procedure can go wrong IS THE REASON YOU DON'T DO IT UNLESS ITS MEDICALLY NECESSARY! First do no HARM.

Err what is this thread?

Is there really such a big circumcised vs uncircumcised debate?

This must be an American thing, probably best to spend less time thinking about other men's cocks and how they look....


I think your phimosis may have cut off the circulation to your brain.
Also **** you very much for making me have to go and look up what the hell phimosis and therefore have to learn about a new and hilarious cock condition.

This is a whole new method of penis posturing. Its not a debate about size, skill, or any sort production or really even a measurable quantity. Its all about who's ding-a-ling is better dressed. So I'll leave the phallic fashion to you mumbling members, but dilznik discussion is honestly homosexual.

Seems like this isn't such a cut and dry issue. Wakka wakka.

So, out of curiosity, who, if anyone is arguing against their current genital conditions? Any pro-circumcision haggis wangs out there? Any anti-circumcision pruned dongs?

Dude, you have to be a troll. The fact that ANY surgical procedure can go wrong IS THE REASON YOU DON'T DO IT UNLESS ITS MEDICALLY NECESSARY! First do no HARM.

Actually, virtually any medical procedure can go wrong and cause harm, not just surgical ones.

So, if you have kids, or are planning on it...gonna get those inoculations? They aren't medically necessary, after all...they are strictly preventative measures and they could go wrong.

You must not be very bright if you are unable to understand my argument. I suggest you go re-read this thread and try to figure it out.

Err what is this thread?

Is there really such a big circumcised vs uncircumcised debate?

This must be an American thing, probably best to spend less time thinking about other men's cocks and how they look....


Also **** you very much for making me have to go and look up what the hell phimosis and therefore have to learn about a new and hilarious cock condition.

Yeah, it's such a hilarious condition. I laugh about having it every day.

By the way, go **** yourself.

Lefties are all for freedom unless it is someone else's. Amazing. Thinly vieled anti-semitism and more government involvement in people's lives. The medical data is somewhat of a mixed bag. Meh benefits vs meh risks. That's why doctors, wisely, leave the decision up to the parents. How's that for a concept. Battlefields, how about a big F U to state sponsered overinvolvement in my families lives and hao about erring on the side of freedom in general and religious freedom in general. Someone please link to the anti-circumcision comic books being distributed on the left coast if you want to see the blatant anti-semitism involved. Disgusting.

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Read the list and just say no next time mom wants a kiss on the cheek.

Lefties are all for freedom unless it is someone else's. Amazing. Thinly vieled anti-semitism and more government involvement in people's lives. The medical data is somewhat of a mixed bag. Meh benefits vs meh risks. That's why doctors, wisely, leave the decision up to the parents. How's that for a concept. Battlefields, how about a big F U to state sponsered overinvolvement in my families lives and hao about erring on the side of freedom in general and religious freedom in general. Someone please link to the anti-circumcision comic books being distributed on the left coast if you want to see the blatant anti-semitism involved. Disgusting.

If it is cultural and down to parental discretion, then female circumcision is back on the cards as it is a parental and cultural decision. Who the **** writes these arguments?

Anti- semitism in your own mind, bro. I'm Australian, I think I have met one Jewish family in the entirety of my existence. I went to a Catholic college, circumcision is a common ritual there (at least to the best of my knowledge, although not strictly adhered to I believe) as well, so the anti- Semite argument falls flat. If I were against a religion or culture, I'd be against one I grew up in. Fucking anti-semitism! Get off your fucking high horse, I wouldn't know how to recognise a Jewish person in an Australian crowd if they ran up to me with a fucking neon yarmulke and spanked me with dradel. We're multicultural like that.

The thing is that doctors don't "wisely leave it up to the parents", it's like they have a vested interest in referring patients for surgery (hang on, they fucking DO!).

As for keeping the state out of family matters, if I doped up my wife and had a doctor put implants in because I think they look better and have the doc also remove her breast tissue in case she gets breast cancer in the future, I would go to jail. That's a family matter, I was doing it for the future well being of my wife as well as making her aesthetically pleasing. Who cares if she was doped up and couldn't make her own decisions, she is my wife and this is a family matter, stay out of it, Uncle Sam!

If it is cultural and down to parental discretion, then female circumcision is back on the cards as it is a parental and cultural decision. Who the **** writes these arguments?

Anti- semitism in your own mind, bro. I'm Australian, I think I have met one Jewish family in the entirety of my existence. I went to a Catholic college, circumcision is a common ritual there (at least to the best of my knowledge, although not strictly adhered to I believe) as well, so the anti- Semite argument falls flat. If I were against a religion or culture, I'd be against one I grew up in. Fucking anti-semitism! Get off your fucking high horse, I wouldn't know how to recognise a Jewish person in an Australian crowd if they ran up to me with a fucking neon yarmulke and spanked me with dradel. We're multicultural like that.

The thing is that doctors don't "wisely leave it up to the parents", it's like they have a vested interest in referring patients for surgery (hang on, they fucking DO!).

As for keeping the state out of family matters, if I doped up my wife and had a doctor put implants in because I think they look better and have the doc also remove her breast tissue in case she gets breast cancer in the future, I would go to jail. That's a family matter, I was doing it for the future well being of my wife as well as making her aesthetically pleasing. Who cares if she was doped up and couldn't make her own decisions, she is my wife and this is a family matter, stay out of it, Uncle Sam!


Right...because knocking out your wife and performing surgeries on her against her will is totally the same as two parents, deciding together, whether or not they think a procedure is in the best interests of their child...because,y'know,parents pretty much make decisions on behalf of their kids every day until the child is an adult.

Really....where do you get your fucking arguments?

But you're right...**** what parents want! No way in hell we should let them get inoculated with vaccines, either! What if they develop autism?! What if they end up developing a case of one of those diseases and they die??! What if the needle isn't clean and they develop an infection and they lose their arm?!?! Better wait until that kid is 'at the age of consent' (even though it still hasn't been clarified what that is yet) and let him/her decide if they want to get shot full of vaccines!