Kambei Shimada
11/16/2011 6:16am,
I'm betting we'll see a cruiserweight division soon enough.
You get soo many guys like Griffin, Jones, Bader, Ortiz who are too big for the LHW division but still too mall to fight the likes of Brock, Overeem etc..
This is the reason the lightheavyweight division has always been stacked.
I'm not sure fights like Lesnar vs Couture or Fedor vs Bigfoot are a good idea anyway.
PointyShinyBurn
11/16/2011 6:22am,
You get soo many guys like Griffin, Jones, Bader, Ortiz who are too big for the LHW division but still too mall to fight the likes of Brock, Overeem etc..None of those guys have ever missed weight, two have been well known for their cardio superiority and three are or were champions.
In what possible sense are they "too big for the LHW division"?
I wouldn't say they were too big for LHW, but at the same time a 230lb division would be sublime.
PointyShinyBurn
11/16/2011 8:41am,
I wouldn't say they were too big for LHW, but at the same time a 230lb division would be sublime.Disagree, heavyweight is too sparse as it is, no need to further water down the talent pool.
It's not like it's the biggest guys in it who are consistently winning, either; If there was a 230 division it would contain the current the champ and the one before him.
Of historical UFC champs who couldn't make 230? Sylvia, Lesnar, Mir maybe? 230+ would be a wasteland like 265+ is at the moment.
Diesel_tke
11/16/2011 9:09am,
A superheavy weight division would be entertaining to watch for the first round, then it would turn into a different kind of pay-per-view.
vashanka
11/16/2011 9:39am,
There are enough divisions as it is. I would hate to see the UFC go the way of boxing.
Yeah, I figured that age may be a factor. 15lbs is not too hard of a cut, but if he starts walking around any higher than 220, it will make a big difference. I cut from 235 to 205 for a tournament and it was tough, but I'm no world class athlete. But to be fair, while a professional athelet might be better at cutting, they're also less likely to be carrying around too much loseable weight.
Holy Moment
11/23/2011 2:21pm,
A superheavy weight division would be entertaining to watch for the first round, then it would turn into a different kind of pay-per-view.
There already is a superheavyweight division, and the UFC has used it on at least one occasion when both fighters were over the 265 lbs limit (Josh Barnett vs. Gan McGee at UFC 28, right after the Unified Rules established the weight limits).
You're basically right, though. For the most part, the Superheavyweight division comprises of Butterbean, freakshows who fought in Japan, Mariuz Pudzianowski, and post-Fedor Tim Sylvia.
http://mmafrenzy.com/files/2009/06/310-pound-tim-sylvia.jpeg
Holy Moment
11/23/2011 2:28pm,
Just to add, in regards to adding a cruiserweight division for 230 lbs fighters: I don't think there are enough fighters at this point in time to really make it work. The cruiserweight belt would probably just be a stepping stone for fighters who would want to travel to the LHW or HW division and rack up multiple titles.
Einstein McFly
11/27/2011 1:19am,
Bit of a catch-22 here; when there's a dominant champ for a long time in a weight class people say that he's only got cans to fight and it's a weak class. When the title switches constantly people say no one is dominating and so they're all mediocre. Naysayers gonna say nay.
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