Frankly I'm surprised this hasn't gone to Trollshido. I would have thought Warhammer would finish that job. Surprisingly, not so.

The Warhammer Gods have exactly the same amount of evidence for their existence as the Gods of Christianity, Islam etc so I think they should be taken seriously in the General Skepticism forum and therefore not cause a Trollshido bomb out.

Saying that we've had hot chicks on bikes... all we need now are video games and Seagal and we're gone.

The Warhammer Gods have exactly the same amount of evidence for their existence as the Gods of Christianity, Islam

Same God. Allah is Elohim.

Same God. Allah is Elohim.

Not sure the literal meaning of Allah, but if based on phonetics alone, you're wrong.
The literal translation of Elohim (אֱלהִים) is a plural of god, hence gods.
I doubt that Moslems would go along with that one.

Not sure the literal meaning of Allah, but if based on phonetics alone, you're wrong.
The literal translation of Elohim (אֱלהִים) is a plural of god, hence gods.
I doubt that Moslems would go along with that one.

Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all worship the same God: Abraham's God, hence the three Abrahamic religions.

The plural form Elohim is used throughout the Torah, and to describe the one God of Abraham who was also the One God ("Al Lah") of Ismael, Abraham's son who is considered the ancestor of the Arab people.

I could have used Yahweh or any other common word for "God" in the Old Testament, I like Elohim. It sounds nicer imho.

Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all worship the same God: Abraham's God, hence the three Abrahamic religions.

The plural form Elohim is used throughout the Torah, and to describe the one God of Abraham who was also the One God ("Al Lah") of Ismael, Abraham's son who is considered the ancestor of the Arab people.

I could have used Yahweh or any other common word for "God" in the Old Testament, I like Elohim. It sounds nicer imho.

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Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all worship the same God: Abraham's God, hence the three Abrahamic religions.



As orthodox Christianity emphasises the Trinity, and Islam denies the existence of Trinity, (and especially the divine nature of Christ) their Gods are not the same. :P

As orthodox Christianity emphasises the Trinity, and Islam denies the existence of Trinity, (and especially the divine nature of Christ) their Gods are not the same. :P

The "God" of the Trinity is still the same as Al Lah. It's true Muslims and Christians disagree about a lot of things, but they still share the same monotheistic God.

In fact, Muslims often argue that because Christians chose to think of God as three separate entities instead of a single entity like their Judaic root, they turned their back on the idea of "one god" and are thus, infidels.

But as far as "who created the Universe" and "Who created Man", both Islam and Christianity share the same original God. Jesus came later, after all.

Without the ability to line up, compare, and examine the god of each belief, you can't realistically say that one is like or unlike another. You simply can't bring that arguement, and expect to realistically back it. For this to be feasible, you would first have to prove that there is, in fact a God. Furthermore, you would have to prove that each of these religious views of God hold legitimacy. The way this debate is headed, I don't see any of this happening.

Long story short,

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The "God" of the Trinity is still the same as Al Lah.
Chimps are not humans and humans are not chimps.

They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the third of three; when there is no Allah save the One Allah. If they desist not from so saying a painful doom will fall on those of them who disbelieve," (Quran 5:73). So, no trinity, not 'the 3rd is our God'. Christians are no infidels, they a people of the Book. That's a big difference. Furthermore, Allah has such different qualities, e.g. being aloof from Man and Creation, that one might ponder whether it's actually the one and the same as is being claimed. Aztec gods were much more grim than those puny Warhammer ones

****! what happened to my returns? shite

Without the ability to line up, compare, and examine the god of each belief, you can't realistically say that one is like or unlike another. You simply can't bring that arguement, and expect to realistically back it. For this to be feasible, you would first have to prove that there is, in fact a God. Furthermore, you would have to prove that each of these religious views of God hold legitimacy. The way this debate is headed, I don't see any of this happening.


That's exactly it, They can't be compared in any real sense as it totally depends on peoples perspective on what 'God' is to them.

The three middle-eastern desert religions ('abrahamic' if you prefer) resemble each other, in their general cosmology, far more than they resemble beliefs originating in other parts of the world. This is natural, given their common geographic/ethnic origins.

One thing they have in common is the notion that their faith is "truer" than all others...including those faiths of their fellow-abrahamics. Hence minutiae-based arguments between and within the middle-eastern-originating creeds.

There's no dispute like a family dispute.

the smaller the difference, the more important it becomes.

The three middle-eastern desert religions ('abrahamic' if you prefer) resemble each other, in their general cosmology, far more than they resemble beliefs originating in other parts of the world. This is natural, given their common geographic/ethnic origins.


It's natural given the fact that all three religions share the same Creator.

I won't use the term God anymore, but according to the histories of all three religions and their ancestral trees, their Creator is the same being. Abraham's sons Israel and Ishmael are the source of Judaism and Islam, respectively. This is why Islam, Judaism, and Christianity share many of the same prophets, angels, and demons.

Islam even recognizes Christ as a prophet of Al Lah.

And a lot has been added to these religions since then. Mormons and orthodox Christians share the same God too, but when you go comparing their minutiae, you'll find all sorts of differences, right?

Anyway...why did God attack Japan with plagues of earth, water, and radiation? I'm amazed no one has brought up this argument.

Anyway...why did God attack Japan with plagues of earth, water, and radiation? I'm amazed no one has brought up this argument.

No doubt it occurred to some.

They just had too much decency to bring it up.